Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all collaboration is welcome. Best regards, [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document Brena Monteiro +55 27 98109 0123 @monteirobrena <http://twitter.com/monteirobrena> Reflexões Brenianas <http://monteirobrena.wordpress.com> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM, <wikitech-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org> > Send Wikitech-l mailing list submissions to > wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikitech-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikitech-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikitech-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug #58155) > (Manuel Schneider) > 2. Re: Request for comments: Localisation format changes > (Arthur Richards) > 3. Re: FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow gadgets to be > turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites (Quim Gil) > 4. Re: FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow gadgets to be > turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites > (Amir E. Aharoni) > 5. Bug Fixing: #21481 (Amanpreet Singh) > 6. Re: MediaWiki Homepage Redesign (Quim Gil) > 7. Re: OAuth currently broken on wikis with CirrusSearch > (Nikolas Everett) > 8. Announcement: Kunal Mehta joins Wikimedia as Features > Contractor (Terry Chay) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:02:12 +0100 > From: Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch> > > > To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug > #58155) > Message-ID: <52A9FA24.1080508@wikimedia.ch<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=52A9FA24.1080508@wikimedia.ch> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks a lot to Hashar and those who helped! > > I am very happy, I just added the videos to the program page of the > conference and will send a mail to our community in a minute. They will > be very happy as well! > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiCon_2013/Programm > > Regards, > > > /Manuel > > Am 12.12.2013 18:36, schrieb Antoine Musso: > > All files have been uploaded now! Please contact me if there is any > > issue :-) > > > > Thanks to Ariel Glenn and Nemo bis for the useful commands. > -- > Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer > Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens > Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:04:56 -0700 > From: Arthur Richards <arichards@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=arichards@wikimedia.org> > > > To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Cc: MediaWiki internationalisation > <mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for comments: Localisation format > changes > Message-ID: > < > CAG5YvhKbtUGgBBDvx4jabczh6x_GPY0AB9oPxvahe5PKHpprMg@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=CAG5YvhKbtUGgBBDvx4jabczh6x_GPY0AB9oPxvahe5PKHpprMg@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Cool! > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) < > smazeland@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=smazeland@wikimedia.org>> > > > We have also proposed to discuss this RfC in the upcoming RfC review > > meeting of 2013-12-18[1]. As far as we know, no time has been set for > this > > meeting, yet. > > > > The WMF Engineering calendar shows the RfC review meeting at 2-3pm PST on > 2013-12-18. > > -- > Arthur Richards > Software Engineer, Mobile > [[User:Awjrichards]] > IRC: awjr > +1-415-839-6885 x6687 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:38:41 -0800 > From: Quim Gil <qgil@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=qgil@wikimedia.org> > > > To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow > gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites > Message-ID: <52AA02B1.8080103@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=52AA02B1.8080103@wikimedia.org> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 12/11/2013 11:21 AM, Chad wrote: > > Sending wiki edits to Gerrit for review? Absolutely not. > > > > I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets & so forth, > just > > not > > using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote half of a > > proof > > of concept) but shot it down because the idea totally sucked. > > I think I agree with your conclusion, but based on my assumptions. It > would be useful to know why you think it sucked. > > Alright, not on Gerrit. Where? > > Even if projects enjoy their freedom to use and modify their gadgets, I > don't think anybody particularly enjoys having to copy (and eventually > localize) gadgets found in other projects. Definitely nobody enjoys > having to fix or re-sync those gadgets years later, when something > breaks and editors complain in the local village pump. > > The idea of global invocation and a central repository is being > considered for templates [1]. Couldn't this be also an approach for > gadgets? Still developed directly on top of MediaWiki, with or without > mechanisms like flaggedrevs, but at least better coordinated and watched > in a reference site. Then projects would be free to rely on those > "upstream" gadgets directly, or to create their own forks, that could be > still documented as such and be hosted in the central repository. > > Many times the copy of gadgets across projects involves localization of > strings that are hardcoded, an extra obstacle for anybody willing to > re-sync gadgets. Separation of code and strings for proper localization > would be an addition that all non-English projects would welcome as > well, allowing automatic resync of the code without translation blockers. > > In theory, mediawiki.org could be not only the central repository for > extensions, but also for templates, gadgets, and bots. With a central > catalog of software, quality assurance and user feedback could be better > articulated. Wikimedia projects would benefit just as much as any > MediaWiki instance out there, without stealing any freedom from them. > > > [1] Bug 39610 - Scribunto should support global module invocations ( > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39610 > > -- > Quim Gil > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:46:18 +0200 > From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> > > > To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow > gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites > Message-ID: > <CACtNa8t_K=_ZHzsU+gnakXAvsM59LvuiCiPRs= > ebssQ0m8zORA@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=ebssQ0m8zORA@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2013/12/12 Quim Gil <qgil@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=qgil@wikimedia.org> > > > > > On 12/11/2013 11:21 AM, Chad wrote: > > > Sending wiki edits to Gerrit for review? Absolutely not. > > > > > > I'm totally cool with the idea of code review for Gadgets & so forth, > > just > > > not > > > using Gerrit. We considered it for Scribunto (and heck, I wrote half > of a > > > proof > > > of concept) but shot it down because the idea totally sucked. > > > > I think I agree with your conclusion, but based on my assumptions. It > > would be useful to know why you think it sucked. > > > > Alright, not on Gerrit. Where? > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadgets_2.0 ? > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:40:24 +0530 > From: Amanpreet Singh <amanpreet.iitr2013@gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=amanpreet.iitr2013@gmail.com> > > > To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Bug Fixing: #21481 > Message-ID: > <CAG1s+wpA6mhJn7DkhrG31h-5Y=mLdRjhNHC= > Esn+UjXyityq2g@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=Esn%2BUjXyityq2g@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, I am new to wikimedia, > > I want to start bug fixing for wikimedia so I have started from this > annoying little bug > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21481 > > Can somebody guide me from where to start and search for fixing this bug, > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:57:36 -0800 > From: Quim Gil <qgil@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=qgil@wikimedia.org> > > > To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, > Heather Walls > <hwalls@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=hwalls@wikimedia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign > Message-ID: <52AA1530.1000106@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=52AA1530.1000106@wikimedia.org> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Brena! > > We have already discussed in person (remotely) but here goes a public > reply as well. > > On 12/02/2013 11:47 AM, Brena Monteiro wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I'm selected to participate of OPW and I will work at MediaWiki Homepage > > Redesign project in which Quim and Heather are my mentors. > > Yes! > > To anybody interested: the goal is to have a proposal to replace the > current mediawiki.org homepage by March 10 (end of Brena's OPW > internship). Ideally this proposal will consist on a wiki page that can > just be copied and pasted. > > The steps to get there are described at > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW#Deliverables > > Your feedback is welcome. We also want to identify reviewers willing to > pay special attention to this project, contributing feedback and helping > to reach decisions. If you are interested, please step in. > > > My first activity is identify the main problems at current homepage. I'm > > watching the page: "Requests for comment/MediaWiki.org Main Page tweaks" > > [1] and I would like to emphasise that all collaboration is welcome. > > After a chat yesterday between Brena, Heather and myself, we agreed that > the next step is to agree on a design document. > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Project_Design_Review_Process#Design_Doc… > > We need to deal with one wiki page only (an important wiki page, but not > as complex as the user interface of a full application), but still this > document will be important to define what we want to do, and why. > > Then mockups. Then wiki implementation. Trying to sign off each phase > reaching community consensus. > > > For those willing to get involved now, at > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Monteirobrena/OPW#Design_document > > I just created topics to discuss the renaming of > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW and set up its > right scope... > > ... and also the actions to close officially > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki.org_Main_Page… > after integrating the relevant details to the design document. > > Most of the communication will happen around those wiki pages. Brena > will use this list for announcements and wider requests for feedback. > You can also find us on #mediawiki IRC. > > -- > Quim Gil > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:08:40 -0500 > From: Nikolas Everett <neverett@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=neverett@wikimedia.org> > > > To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] OAuth currently broken on wikis with > CirrusSearch > Message-ID: > < > CAP+xBbXMANmT0FqfjAaSLkLZbUknLoEiqfOzFgUcHb0HZp7EqA@mail.gmail.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=CAP%2BxBbXMANmT0FqfjAaSLkLZbUknLoEiqfOzFgUcHb0HZp7EqA@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Nikolas Everett <neverett@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=neverett@wikimedia.org> > >wrote: > > > Note that the wikis that say they were deployed on December 11th but do > > not have a strike through them have Cirrus running, but their indexes are > > still being built. I believe OAuth will be broken on those wikis as > well. > > > > This requires two fixes to actually fix, both of which are in review > state > > pending approval, another test on beta, and eventual deployment. We > should > > have them out sometime in the next few hours. > > > > I've just verified the fix in production. Please let me know if any of you > are still seeing the error. > > Thanks, > > Nik > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:08:18 -0800 > From: Terry Chay <tchay@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=tchay@wikimedia.org> > > > To: "(All) WMF Staff" <wmfall@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wmfall@lists.wikimedia.org>>, > Wikimedia > developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>, > wmfsf > <wmfsf@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=wmfsf@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Cc: kmehta@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=kmehta@wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Kunal Mehta joins Wikimedia as > Features Contractor > Message-ID: <1E5E35BD-496E-4E92-80E2-9DE23111CA99@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=1E5E35BD-496E-4E92-80E2-9DE23111CA99@wikimedia.org> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello everyone, > > It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Kunal Mehta[1] has > joined the Wikimedia Foundation as contractor in Features Engineering. > > Before joining us (and currently), Kunal is a student in college, > switching from computer science to business administration for reasons that > I’m sure warrant more discussion. > > Kunal is currently a Wikipedia admin got involved working on the projects > 8 years ago. He also helps writing and maintaining bots (legoktm <3’s > pywikibot) and working on the nether regions of the volunteer developer > community as part of the Volunteer Response Team, which he currently > continues to do[2]. I met him at Wikimania through a Wikidata scholarship > because apparently we were too cheap to spring for his ticket. > > Kunal will be working with the Core Features Team since MassMessage[3] and > Echo[4] have overlapping concerns, and Flow[5] can use more development > support now that it is out. When he isn’t doing that you’ll see him around > adding this and that to core or the bots. :-) > > Kunal lives and goes to school in San Jose. Most importantly, he’s > unlocked level 2 in Naan Sense on FourSquare[6]. From his username on the > projects, I’d also bet he must like Lego Mindstorms[7]. > > For the record, Kunal, I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords. > > As you have guessed from my usual tardiness and my drive to finish my > announcements before the calendar year, his first official day was actually > October 28th (Only two months ago? Not bad, not bad at all). > > Please join me in a belated welcome of Kunal Mehta to the Wikimedia > Foundation. > > Take care, > Terry > > [1]: [[User:legoktm]] > [2]: https://github.com/legoktm > [3]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage > [4]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications) > [5]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal > > [6]: https://foursquare.com/legoktm/badge/51296de6e4b096ae4b48fb8e?ref=tw > [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Mindstorms_NXT > > terry chay 최태리 > Director of Features Engineering > Wikimedia Foundation > “Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.” > > p: +1 (415) 839-6885 x6832 > m: +1 (408) 480-8902 > e: tchay@wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=tchay@wikimedia.org> > i: http://terrychay.com/ > w: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tychay > aim: terrychay > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > End of Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 125, Issue 43 > ******************************************* >