I believe I was told that, for the purposes of (say) Gerrit, contractors (and potentially full employees) were advised to use personal email addresses in order to provide continuity of their account once they had ceased to be contractors/employees. It did of course make my code review analysis -- which required users to be labelled either as staff or non-staff -- a little tricky.
Harry
-- Harry Burt User:Jarry1250
On 11/03/2012 09:47 AM, Harry Burt wrote:
I believe I was told that, for the purposes of (say) Gerrit, contractors (and potentially full employees) were advised to use personal email addresses in order to provide continuity of their account once they had ceased to be contractors/employees.
?
Gerrit and GitHub allow you to add more than one email address to an account, isn't it?
I thought it was a good practice to contribute code from the email address of the employer that is paying you for doing that work. It leaves things a lot cleaner for the contributor, the employer and the OSS project in terms of attribution, legal & IP. With +5M LOC around, long term projects and continuous developer hiring, I wonder whether a bit of consistency wouldn't be useful.
It also helps the developer being clear on what contributions are done as part of his/her job and which ones are done as purely personal projects.
When contributing to upstream projects (in this case non-MediaWiki projects), using the mediawiki.org address also helps to make clearer the contributions of the Wikimedia orgs as such. You ave probably found yourselves in the situation of finding that some redhat.com, hp.com or whatever.com/org dude is committing a patch in some upstream project, and how good that feels. It can't be bad to generate this type of impression to developers and contributors of open source projects out there.
It did of course make my code review analysis -- which required users to be labelled either as staff or non-staff -- a little tricky.
That too, and we have now this situation with the metrics reports. We get many times the question of WMF contributions compared to independents / 3rd parties and as it is now this is very difficult to calculate.
Anyway, I don't have an agenda here. :) My main point especially on email addresses in code contributions is simply whether the WMF has considered or agreed on a guideline.
-- Quim
When contributing to upstream projects (in this case non-MediaWiki projects), using the mediawiki.org address also helps to make clearer the contributions of the Wikimedia orgs as such. You ave probably found yourselves in the situation of finding that some redhat.com, hp.com or whatever.com/org dude is committing a patch in some upstream project, and how good that feels. It can't be bad to generate this type of impression to developers and contributors of open source projects out there.
For my part, though I consistently use my @member.fsf.org address, I generally include some mention in either the commit message(s) or some communication with the community that I'm working as an employee of the WMF. I've made inroads with communities that way, and it appears to be sufficient.
That too, and we have now this situation with the metrics reports. We get many times the question of WMF contributions compared to independents / 3rd parties and as it is now this is very difficult to calculate.
Can I suggest asking HR for a CSV of employee names, to which you should be able to easily add their email addresses (probably from the commit logs)? It might take some time, but it's also relatively simple to watch wikitech-l for new employee announcements and add them to the list. Checking the CSV as part of your metrics script would then be pretty simple.
Like Quim, I don't intend to force policy here, I'm just trying to solve the problems raised :)
(can we get some community insight, here, maybe?)
I meant it's not a problem if someone doesn't use official mail :) not that it is problem if someone does... if I was wmf employee I likely wouldn't try to appear as someone else or someone "more" to rest of community. But everyone has own preference here. It would be shame if people working for wmf were forced to use only official accounts.
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Mark Holmquist mtraceur@member.fsf.orgwrote:
When contributing to upstream projects (in this case non-MediaWiki
projects), using the mediawiki.org address also helps to make clearer the contributions of the Wikimedia orgs as such. You ave probably found yourselves in the situation of finding that some redhat.com, hp.com or whatever.com/org dude is committing a patch in some upstream project, and how good that feels. It can't be bad to generate this type of impression to developers and contributors of open source projects out there.
For my part, though I consistently use my @member.fsf.org address, I generally include some mention in either the commit message(s) or some communication with the community that I'm working as an employee of the WMF. I've made inroads with communities that way, and it appears to be sufficient.
That too, and we have now this situation with the metrics reports. We
get many times the question of WMF contributions compared to independents / 3rd parties and as it is now this is very difficult to calculate.
Can I suggest asking HR for a CSV of employee names, to which you should be able to easily add their email addresses (probably from the commit logs)? It might take some time, but it's also relatively simple to watch wikitech-l for new employee announcements and add them to the list. Checking the CSV as part of your metrics script would then be pretty simple.
Like Quim, I don't intend to force policy here, I'm just trying to solve the problems raised :)
(can we get some community insight, here, maybe?)
-- Mark Holmquist Software Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation mtraceur@member.fsf.org http://marktraceur.info
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Quim Gil quimgil@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/03/2012 09:47 AM, Harry Burt wrote:
I believe I was told that, for the purposes of (say) Gerrit, contractors (and potentially full employees) were advised to use personal email addresses in order to provide continuity of their account once they had ceased to be contractors/employees.
?
Gerrit and GitHub allow you to add more than one email address to an account, isn't it?
It does, I just did this to add my new @wikimedia.org address. And it's very easy to change addresses in bugzilla too, although when you do it goes back and changes all your old comments too. And for the mailing lists, it's not too bad to switch your subscription either (although if you plan to post from multiple addresses to a "subscribers only" list, you'd probably want to keep both addresses subscribed).
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