Hi Wikitech,
I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki.
Is that correct?
Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default?
Are there any wikis where Flow is widely used on an opt-in basis, even if it's not the default?
Thanks,
Pine
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki.
Is that correct?
Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default?
Are there any wikis where Flow is widely used on an opt-in basis, even if it's not the default?
Good questions. I'm kinda curious, but I'm not interested enough to dig it out.
I imagine a great place to (also) ask this set of questions is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Flow
Rob p.s. if you already have asked this on wiki, please let us know a pointer to your question on-wiki, as that will result in a much better archive for the conversation.
Thanks for the suggestion. Thread is now open at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T86edotv1w0jo910
Pine
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on
MediaWiki.
Is that correct?
Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all
talk
pages by default?
Are there any wikis where Flow is widely used on an opt-in basis, even if it's not the default?
Good questions. I'm kinda curious, but I'm not interested enough to dig it out.
I imagine a great place to (also) ask this set of questions is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Flow
Rob p.s. if you already have asked this on wiki, please let us know a pointer to your question on-wiki, as that will result in a much better archive for the conversation.
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Pine W wrote:
I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki.
Is that correct?
Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default?
Are there any wikis where Flow is widely used on an opt-in basis, even if it's not the default?
The Wikimedia wiki configuration files are published on the public Internet at https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/.
https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/InitialiseSettings.php.txt has a relevant section (lightly tweaked due to line wrapping):
--- 'wmgUseFlow' => [ 'default' => false, // This is computed in flow.dblist as all - "a specific list" // (nonflow.dblist) // - "all private wikis" (private.dblist) + "private wikis with Flow" // (flowprivate.dblist) 'flow' => true, ], ---
You can view these database lists. In particular, https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=flow.dblist.
These configuration files are the canonical source of truth for what's enabled or disabled on Wikimedia wikis. There may be a nice manually updated table on mediawiki.org or meta.wikimedia.org that explains the status of Flow on various wikis.
You can verify whether Flow is installed on a specific wiki by visiting the page "Special:Version" on that wiki; for example: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Version lists "Flow".
This reply doesn't directly answer your questions about "opt-in" versus "all talk pages by default", but it should be a decent starting point to gather those answers as accurately as possible. For example, you can reference the "wmgFlowEnableOptInBetaFeature" configuration variable in InitialiseSettings.php.txt to see which wikis set this variable to true.
MZMcBride
Thanks. Quiddity provided this helpful link: https://edit-analysis.wmflabs.org/beta-enables/#projects=testwiki,zhwiki,wik...
Quiddity also said on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T86edotv1w0jo910 that kab.wikipedia has requested Flow on all talk pages by default, Chinese Wikipedia is "particularly active", and that "There's a survey coming soon, which will give more info/insight into all this."
Pine
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:09 AM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Pine W wrote:
I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki.
Is that correct?
Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default?
Are there any wikis where Flow is widely used on an opt-in basis, even if it's not the default?
The Wikimedia wiki configuration files are published on the public Internet at https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/.
https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/InitialiseSettings.php.txt has a relevant section (lightly tweaked due to line wrapping):
'wmgUseFlow' => [ 'default' => false, // This is computed in flow.dblist as all - "a specific list" // (nonflow.dblist) // - "all private wikis" (private.dblist) + "private wikis with Flow" // (flowprivate.dblist) 'flow' => true, ],
You can view these database lists. In particular, https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=flow.dblist.
These configuration files are the canonical source of truth for what's enabled or disabled on Wikimedia wikis. There may be a nice manually updated table on mediawiki.org or meta.wikimedia.org that explains the status of Flow on various wikis.
You can verify whether Flow is installed on a specific wiki by visiting the page "Special:Version" on that wiki; for example: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Version lists "Flow".
This reply doesn't directly answer your questions about "opt-in" versus "all talk pages by default", but it should be a decent starting point to gather those answers as accurately as possible. For example, you can reference the "wmgFlowEnableOptInBetaFeature" configuration variable in InitialiseSettings.php.txt to see which wikis set this variable to true.
MZMcBride
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