Robert Rohde wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Nikola Smolenski smolensk@eunet.yu wrote:
On Monday 01 December 2008 04:09:11 Robert Rohde wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Neil Harris usenet@tonal.clara.co.uk
wrote:
Is the data replicated anywhere outside the Tampa data centre (such as in Amsterdam or Seoul)? If not, just one fire, flood or hurricane could destroy the entire en: Wikipedia.
There are database mirrors of every wiki, including en, as part of the toolserver cluster in Amsterdam.
Unfortunately, enwiki mirror doesn't include article text :(
Ouch, I hadn't realized they gave up on text replication. Apparently quite a while ago too. (That will teach me for never bothering to learn to use the toolserver.)
So I guess we are back to the meteor impact destroys Wikipedia scenario.
-Robert Rohde
That's scary: are there any off-site backups of the full database, including the article text, made anywhere, other than the constantly failing dumps? Given that Wikipedia is the Wikimedia Foundation's principal asset, I would hope that fixing this single point of failure would be a priority for the Foundation.
-- Neil
That's scary: are there any off-site backups of the full database, including the article text, made anywhere, other than the constantly failing dumps? Given that Wikipedia is the Wikimedia Foundation's principal asset, I would hope that fixing this single point of failure would be a priority for the Foundation.
Yes, all databases are replicated to another cluster located in amsterdam.
But you are right: the situation does suck. We got the new hardware to get working dumps again now, we just have to sit tight and hope this fresh dump of enwiki works. If it does, things should go smothly again.
-- daniel
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Daniel Kinzler wrote:
That's scary: are there any off-site backups of the full database, including the article text, made anywhere, other than the constantly failing dumps? Given that Wikipedia is the Wikimedia Foundation's principal asset, I would hope that fixing this single point of failure would be a priority for the Foundation.
Yes, all databases are replicated to another cluster located in amsterdam.
But you are right: the situation does suck. We got the new hardware to get working dumps again now, we just have to sit tight and hope this fresh dump of enwiki works. If it does, things should go smothly again.
Assume it won't, but that new ones after the dump system is retooled a bit to run in smaller pieces in parallel will.
- -- brion
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