Original version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary#2015-11-27
Help develop the next summary here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary/Next! Software
- MediaWiki 1.26 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.26 now available (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.announce/251) - Programmers Turn Wikipedia Into Music to Make a Point http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/11/16/programmers-turn-wikipedia-into-music-to-make-a-point (KQED article) - Drawing Questions from Wikidata ftp://ftp.tik.ee.ethz.ch/pub/students/2015-FS/BA-2015-13.pdf (ETH Zürich bachelor thesis) - OOjs UI https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OOjs_UI 0.14.0 Release (breaking change, announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85007 )
EventsPast
- Video recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEru0ccdLSA of WMF Discovery and Reading showcase on 2015-11-16. - Meeting notes https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-11-18 of WMF Scrum of scrums on 2015-11-18. - Meeting logs https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-11-19-19.00.html of IRC office hour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours on 2015-11-19 19:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20151119T19&p1=%3A&ah=1 : Reconnecting with the shared hosting community https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/80047) - Technical needs https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wscon2015needs identified at Wikisource Conference 2015 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Wikisource_Conference_2015 (includes hackathon and technical workshops) on 20-22 Nov 2015 in Vienna. - Video stream and slides https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#November_2015 of Lightning Talks https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#Upcoming_Lightning_Talks on 2015-11-24. - Meeting logs https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-11-25-13.00.html of IRC office hour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours on 2015-11-25: Language Engineering. - Meeting notes https://notes.wikimedia.fr/public_pad/Wikidata%2026%20novembre%202015 (in French) of Ateliers Wikidata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fr:Wikip%C3%A9dia:Ateliers_Wikidata#Paris.2C_26.2F11.2F2015 on 2015-11-26 in Paris.
Upcoming
- 2015-12-2/4 Bangalore: Grace Hopper Celebration India http://ghcindia.anitaborg.org/ (call for Wikimedians http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85000 ) - 2015-12-10 IRC office hour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours: Discussion about product development - 2015-12-14: Wikimedia Product showcase https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Product#Monthly_Product_Showcase . - [image: Octicons-sync.svg] 2015-12-22: Upcoming Lightning Talks https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#Upcoming_Lightning_Talks. You can sign up or propose a talk. - [image: Octicons-sync.svg] 2016-01-04/06 San Francisco: Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016 - Skeleton schedule for Tuesday 4 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/2016-01-04 and Wednesday 5 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/2016-01-05 combine slots for pre-scheduled sessions and unconference rooms. (T116024 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116024) - "Must have" sessions are being selected. (T119593 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119593) - 2016-03-30 / 2016-04-03 Jerusalem: Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2016 (new wiki page, work in progress) - Idea: Engaging developer communities. (T119694 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119694) - Idea: Connect the priorities of the Community Wishlist and other tech priorities. (T119703 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703)
Documentation
- Commons media of the month http://chimeces.com/photo-of-the-day/ example web app written in ClojureScript. (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85002 , source https://github.com/joakin/photo-of-the-day, ClojureScript online workshop http://chimeces.com/cljs-browser-repl/#/notebook/diving-into-clojurescript/file/index )
Community health
- Proposal: MediaWiki Group WikiWerkers https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/WikiWerkers ( announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85003 ) - [image: Octicons-sync.svg] Code of Conduct draft https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft - The section Report a problem https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Report_a_problem has been frozen after a round of feedback. - The page about handling cases, responses and resolutions, and appeals https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Finalize_the_Cases_page welcomes edits and feedback.
Project management
- Phlogiston https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phlogiston is a reporting tool for Phabricator. (live instance http://phlogiston.wmflabs.org/, Community Tech example report http://phlogiston.wmflabs.org/cot.html) - Wikimedia Engineering 2015-16 Q3 Goals https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q3_Goals are being drafted. - New page: Wikimedia Product https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Product.
Metrics
Code repositories with slowest code review http://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/gerrit_review_queue.html:
1. UploadWizard https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+status:open,n,z: 512 days, 9 changesets. (T119764 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119764) 2. Wikistats https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:analytics/wikistats+status:open,n,z: 505 days, 5 changesets. (T113695 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113695) 3. BookManagerv2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/BookManagerv2,n,z: 473 days, 19 changesets. (T117105 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117105) 4. BayesianFilter https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/BayesianFilter,n,z: 416 days, 1 changeset. (T118460 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118460) 5. TitleBlacklist https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/TitleBlacklist,n,z: 336 days, 1 changeset.
This is a very long list of individual links. Could you quickly summarise in text what the team has been working on and what they will be next?
On 27 November 2015 at 11:36, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Original version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary#2015-11-27
Help develop the next summary here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Relations/Weekly_summary/Next! Software
- MediaWiki 1.26 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.26 now
available (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.announce/251)
- Programmers Turn Wikipedia Into Music to Make a Point
http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/11/16/programmers-turn-wikipedia-into-music-to-make-a-point (KQED article)
- Drawing Questions from Wikidata
ftp://ftp.tik.ee.ethz.ch/pub/students/2015-FS/BA-2015-13.pdf (ETH Zürich bachelor thesis)
- OOjs UI https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OOjs_UI 0.14.0 Release
(breaking change, announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85007 )
EventsPast
- Video recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEru0ccdLSA of WMF
Discovery and Reading showcase on 2015-11-16.
- Meeting notes
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-11-18 of WMF Scrum of scrums on 2015-11-18.
- Meeting logs
https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-11-19-19.00.html of IRC office hour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours on 2015-11-19 19:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20151119T19&p1=%3A&ah=1 : Reconnecting with the shared hosting community https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/80047)
- Technical needs https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wscon2015needs
identified at Wikisource Conference 2015 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Wikisource_Conference_2015 (includes hackathon and technical workshops) on 20-22 Nov 2015 in Vienna.
- Video stream and slides
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#November_2015 of Lightning Talks https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#Upcoming_Lightning_Talks on 2015-11-24.
- Meeting logs
https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-11-25-13.00.html of IRC office hour https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours on 2015-11-25: Language Engineering.
- Meeting notes
https://notes.wikimedia.fr/public_pad/Wikidata%2026%20novembre%202015 (in French) of Ateliers Wikidata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fr:Wikip%C3%A9dia:Ateliers_Wikidata#Paris.2C_26.2F11.2F2015 on 2015-11-26 in Paris.
Upcoming
- 2015-12-2/4 Bangalore: Grace Hopper Celebration India
http://ghcindia.anitaborg.org/ (call for Wikimedians http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85000 )
- 2015-12-10 IRC office hour
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours: Discussion about product development
- 2015-12-14: Wikimedia Product showcase
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Product#Monthly_Product_Showcase .
- [image: Octicons-sync.svg] 2015-12-22: Upcoming Lightning Talks
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#Upcoming_Lightning_Talks. You can sign up or propose a talk.
- [image: Octicons-sync.svg] 2016-01-04/06 San Francisco: Wikimedia
Developer Summit 2016 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016 - Skeleton schedule for Tuesday 4 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/2016-01-04 and Wednesday 5 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/2016-01-05 combine slots for pre-scheduled sessions and unconference rooms. (T116024 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116024) - "Must have" sessions are being selected. (T119593 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119593)
- 2016-03-30 / 2016-04-03 Jerusalem: Wikimedia Hackathon 2016
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2016 (new wiki page, work in progress) - Idea: Engaging developer communities. (T119694 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119694) - Idea: Connect the priorities of the Community Wishlist and other tech priorities. (T119703 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703)
Documentation
- Commons media of the month http://chimeces.com/photo-of-the-day/ example
web app written in ClojureScript. (announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85002 , source https://github.com/joakin/photo-of-the-day, ClojureScript online workshop http://chimeces.com/cljs-browser-repl/#/notebook/diving-into-clojurescript/file/index )
Community health
- Proposal: MediaWiki Group WikiWerkers
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/WikiWerkers ( announcement http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/85003 )
- [image: Octicons-sync.svg] Code of Conduct draft
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft - The section Report a problem https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Report_a_problem has been frozen after a round of feedback. - The page about handling cases, responses and resolutions, and appeals https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Finalize_the_Cases_page welcomes edits and feedback.
Project management
- Phlogiston https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phlogiston is a reporting
tool for Phabricator. (live instance http://phlogiston.wmflabs.org/, Community Tech example report http://phlogiston.wmflabs.org/cot.html)
- Wikimedia Engineering 2015-16 Q3 Goals
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q3_Goals are being drafted.
- New page: Wikimedia Product
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Product.
Metrics
Code repositories with slowest code review http://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/gerrit_review_queue.html:
- UploadWizard
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+status:open,n,z: 512 days, 9 changesets. (T119764 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119764) 2. Wikistats https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:analytics/wikistats+status:open,n,z: 505 days, 5 changesets. (T113695 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113695) 3. BookManagerv2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/BookManagerv2,n,z: 473 days, 19 changesets. (T117105 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117105) 4. BayesianFilter https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/BayesianFilter,n,z: 416 days, 1 changeset. (T118460 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118460) 5. TitleBlacklist https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/TitleBlacklist,n,z: 336 days, 1 changeset.
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On 27 November 2015 at 11:32, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is a very long list of individual links. Could you quickly summarise in text what the team has been working on and what they will be next?
I agree with this. The weekly update email, as currently structured, is pretty much unreadable for me. A short summary would work better for me.
Thanks, Dan
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I agree with this. The weekly update email, as currently structured, is pretty much unreadable for me. A short summary would work better for me.
You can click the first link and read the wiki version, where all the links are not formatted in a broken way and section titles actually stand out. That version of the report is pretty nice IMO. (I wouldn't mind if the email would be HTML as well but there are usually people who dislike that.)
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
This list strips HTML formatting.
Looks like we identified the root problem then.
The wiki view is vastly better than the email body. My perception is that this summary is not "What developer relations has been doing", but rather "if you're a developer here's stuff that might interest you". With that filter, it made much more sense.
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Gergo Tisza gtisza@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
This list strips HTML formatting.
Looks like we identified the root problem then. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Well, when the message doesn't adapt to the medium, it's of limited utility to argue the problem is the medium. You can argue as long as you want, just don't expect it to change ;)
It seems like an easy resolution to this would be to just point people at the wiki. So instead of sending variously-formatted emails that contain the whole thing, just "Hey, we've released a new report! It's on the wiki at [URL] and contains, amongst other things, [2-3 really cool/interesting things]. Hope you enjoy!"
That way people can get the information from the nicely-formatted source without simultaneously being lured by a not-as-nicely formatted source.
On 4 December 2015 at 13:52, Kevin Smith ksmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
The wiki view is vastly better than the email body. My perception is that this summary is not "What developer relations has been doing", but rather "if you're a developer here's stuff that might interest you". With that filter, it made much more sense.
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Gergo Tisza gtisza@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
This list strips HTML formatting.
Looks like we identified the root problem then. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
That way people can get the information from the nicely-formatted source without simultaneously being lured by a not-as-nicely formatted source.
Why is that better than making both sources nicely formatted? All it probably takes is flipping a configuration switch to stop mailman from butchering HTML emails.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Gergo Tisza gtisza@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
That way people can get the information from the nicely-formatted source without simultaneously being lured by a not-as-nicely formatted source.
Fwiw, a personal +1 to just including the link (and optionally 1 or 2 highlight sentences) in these email updates, which I otherwise appreciate. :)
Why is that better than making both sources nicely formatted? All it probably takes is flipping a configuration switch to stop mailman from butchering HTML emails.
That's a topic almost as contentious as top/bottom posting! "Nicely" is subjective!! ;-)
Yes, it is just a toggle, but as the FAQ[1] says:
Q. My users hate HTML in their email and for security reasons, I want to strip out all MIME attachments. How can I do this? A. Mailman 2.1 has this feature built-in. See the Content Filtering Options page in the admin interface.
[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/faq.html
A personal -1 to allowing HTML formatting on this list in general - I don't want to see twitter logos, custom typefaces/colors, or [[mystery meat navigation]] links, and all the other woes of HTML email - there isn't a way to override this in gmail directly, so I appreciate that some of our mailing lists auto-convert HTML->plaintext. If this sub-issue gets forked into a separate thread to propose a change, I can supply a litany of links as to why HTML emails are still bad netiquette and are frustrating for many users (especially on a technical mailing list, where some users use a CLI to read). But hopefully that's enough info to conclude this sub-issue. :-)
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