On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Petr Bena <benapetr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From my point of view, this is something what will be
possible in future. I
thought that once we finish working on beta cluster, all deployment will be
done there, and then once it is found working, it's merged with production.
Now it works the other way - changes are done in production, and then
merged to labs.
That is not strictly true. Merged code changes go to beta automatically,
and because of the rolling deployments to production, are typically
available in beta labs for some time before being deployed.
However, beta labs has pointed out how much manual effort is involved in
deploying. Database updates have not been going to beta labs along with
merged code, for example, and I believe we might have a similar issue with
graphic elements, icons and such, also lagging the actual merged code.
Two things coming up might mitigate this somewhat: we'll be experimenting
with git-deploy in beta labs first, and that might make for some
improvements. Also, we will have an increasing focus on Continuous
Deployment/DevOps in the near future, and I'm hoping beta labs will play a
big role in any DevOps work we do.
I think this should change, and once it is done,
people
should be able to modify configuration of labs - thus changing the
production in future.
But given labs were flagged as "stable" few weeks ago, this is going to
take a while. But that's how I see it, maybe it's going to be done
differently.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi,
Even before joining the WMF I have heard about the "opportunities for
sysadmins to contribute", the possibility to get involved in Wikipedia
that
way, how great
https://labs.wikimedia.org/ is for
this purpose and the
inevitable mention to Puppet at some point.
While improving
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**How_to_contribute< couldn't find (m)any
details about how a volunteer sysadmin could enter
this path and make progress until, say, becoming
a Wikimedia sysadmin
wearing a 'got [Wikimedia logo] root' shirt.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Sysadmin_hub< to be the closest
landing page for a sysadmin volunteer, but that
page needs love and there is little to be found
there for wannabe
contributors.
I can put some time sorting out this, but I need help from the people in
the know. We could start defining the first step that a potential
sysadmin
volunteer could make in order to become a helpful
contributor.
--
Quim Gil
Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
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