I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
On the English Wikipedia, only new *pages* are patrolled. This is the case on most Wikimedia wikis, actually. See [1]
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edit#Patrolled_pages
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
OK, so the original suggestion I got from Nemo (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072047.html) to use patrolling as solution for "suspicious edits queue" (which I proposed here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072038.html ) was actually not possible, because the feature is disabled anyway...
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theopolisme theopolismewiki@gmail.com wrote:
On the English Wikipedia, only new *pages* are patrolled. This is the case on most Wikimedia wikis, actually. See [1]
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edit#Patrolled_pages
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
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Currently, but you could always get consensus to get it enabled.
RC patrolling was switched off in 2005 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28news%29...
NP patrolling was turned on in 2007 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/patrol...
And the API didn't support patrolling until 2008 - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/40435
So obviously things have changed a lot and you may have an actual use case for it now. That said, I'm not sure patrolled edits is really the best option. It sounds like you want a queue that you can add things to for later review. But with patrolled edits, you can only remove things. So if *every* unpatrolled edit goes through huggle and is either reverted, patrolled, or left for later review, it would work. But if it doesn't look at every edit, then your queue is going to be a mix of "suspicious edits" and things that were never looked at in the first place.
Only admins, bots, and people in the autopatrol group would have their edits patrolled automatically, which means you'd have to patrol the edits of a large fraction of regular users.
-- Alex
On 12/10/2013 9:24 AM, Petr Bena wrote:
OK, so the original suggestion I got from Nemo (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072047.html) to use patrolling as solution for "suspicious edits queue" (which I proposed here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072038.html ) was actually not possible, because the feature is disabled anyway...
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theopolisme theopolismewiki@gmail.com wrote:
On the English Wikipedia, only new *pages* are patrolled. This is the case on most Wikimedia wikis, actually. See [1]
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edit#Patrolled_pages
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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From my own experience it would be faster and less painful to
implement my own "patrolled edits" feature / queue using some own interface on labs for example, than getting anything passed through RFC on enwp :P
But if anyone is in a mood to commit suicide, you can of course start a RFC on english wikipedia
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex mrzmanwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, but you could always get consensus to get it enabled.
RC patrolling was switched off in 2005 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28news%29...
NP patrolling was turned on in 2007 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/patrol...
And the API didn't support patrolling until 2008 - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/40435
So obviously things have changed a lot and you may have an actual use case for it now. That said, I'm not sure patrolled edits is really the best option. It sounds like you want a queue that you can add things to for later review. But with patrolled edits, you can only remove things. So if *every* unpatrolled edit goes through huggle and is either reverted, patrolled, or left for later review, it would work. But if it doesn't look at every edit, then your queue is going to be a mix of "suspicious edits" and things that were never looked at in the first place.
Only admins, bots, and people in the autopatrol group would have their edits patrolled automatically, which means you'd have to patrol the edits of a large fraction of regular users.
-- Alex
On 12/10/2013 9:24 AM, Petr Bena wrote:
OK, so the original suggestion I got from Nemo
(http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072047.html) to use patrolling as solution for "suspicious edits queue" (which I proposed here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072038.html ) was actually not possible, because the feature is disabled anyway...
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theopolisme theopolismewiki@gmail.com wrote:
On the English Wikipedia, only new *pages* are patrolled. This is the case on most Wikimedia wikis, actually. See [1]
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edit#Patrolled_pages
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, "Isarra Yos" zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
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Really this seems the ideal use case for edit tags (the obvious problem is currently you can't set them by the api afaik)
-bawolff
Can you even read them by api? I know these may be part of recent changes query, but huggle uses IRC feed for RC so the additional information about edits are retrieved using other api's. Is there any api that retrieve what tags are applied for an edit with certain RevID?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, "Isarra Yos" zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
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Really this seems the ideal use case for edit tags (the obvious problem is currently you can't set them by the api afaik)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&revids...
Returns:
{ "query": { "pages": { "12461": { "pageid": 12461, "ns": 0, "title": "Gradient", "revisions": [ { "tags": [ "Section blanking" ] } ] } } } }
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
Can you even read them by api? I know these may be part of recent changes query, but huggle uses IRC feed for RC so the additional information about edits are retrieved using other api's. Is there any api that retrieve what tags are applied for an edit with certain RevID?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, "Isarra Yos" zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
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Really this seems the ideal use case for edit tags (the obvious problem
is
currently you can't set them by the api afaik)
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Ok, that is good, though it is lacking several features, including ability to modify it (it's not possible to tag a page using these api's) so we can use this to improve the scoring, but can't use it to share some data with other users.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&revids...
Returns:
{ "query": { "pages": { "12461": { "pageid": 12461, "ns": 0, "title": "Gradient", "revisions": [ { "tags": [ "Section blanking" ] } ] } } } }
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
Can you even read them by api? I know these may be part of recent changes query, but huggle uses IRC feed for RC so the additional information about edits are retrieved using other api's. Is there any api that retrieve what tags are applied for an edit with certain RevID?
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-12-10 11:05 AM, "Isarra Yos" zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
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Really this seems the ideal use case for edit tags (the obvious problem
is
currently you can't set them by the api afaik)
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On 12/10/2013 01:05 PM, Isarra Yos wrote:
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
Thanking is for when someone does something special. Not barnstar worthy (that's even more special), but more than just a trivial fix. There are a lot of good edits that probably aren't thanks-worthy.
Matt Flaschen
The basic idea is to filter out
* Suspicious edits (edits that looks like the vandalism but person who reviews them doesn't know for sure and needs more attention by others) * Good edits (edits that can be surely ignored by others so that people who deal with vandalism have less work and don't do double work reviewing same data)
Using thank you feature doesn't really make it easy for others to figure out if edit was ever processed by that feature / flagged as good
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/12/13 13:40, Petr Bena wrote:
I was recently suggested by someone (and requested by someone else) to use patrolling on good edits in huggle, however after executing the patrol api query I receive this error:
<?xml version="1.0"?><api servedby="mw1130"><error
code="patroldisabled" info="Patrolling is disabled on this wiki" /></api>
Is it true? Is patrolling really disabled on English wikipedia? It sounds to me very unlike, so is this a bug and different error message should have been displayed?
What about using the thank feature for good edits?
-L
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