(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago. [1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters form and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible for everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making this project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of this email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often even experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out when we were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several cities in Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia we've discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works and how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used and combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for an advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has been implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn about it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a first selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work on a 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to add support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new feature on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is much appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for how to use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people from the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to thank the folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the workshops and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the Arabic Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by the team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not least we would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who have supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do) the necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket group 0) [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch/Worksho... [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket arwiki and dewiki)
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I can only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago. [1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters form and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible for everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making this project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of this email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often even experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out when we were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several cities in Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia we've discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works and how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used and combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for an advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has been implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn about it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a first selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work on a 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to add support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new feature on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is much appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for how to use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people from the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to thank the folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the workshops and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the Arabic Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by the team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not least we would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who have supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do) the necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket group 0) [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket arwiki and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details (e.g. the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we can look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project tag is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I can only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago. [1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters form and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible for everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making this project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of this email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often even experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out when we were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several cities in Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia we've discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works and how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used and combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for an advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has been implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn about it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a first selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work on a 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to add support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new feature on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is much appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for how to use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people from the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to thank the folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the workshops and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the Arabic Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by the team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not least we would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who have supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do) the necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket group 0) [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket arwiki and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm on mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from mobile. So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser, timeless skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on another one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached, all the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details (e.g. the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we can look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project tag is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible for everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making this project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often even experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several cities in Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia we've discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used and combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for an advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a first selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is much appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for how to use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the Arabic Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by the team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not least we would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who have supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket arwiki and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Hi!
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm on mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from mobile. So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser, timeless skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on another
Likely there's a problem with timeless, see: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181106
Vector works fine for me though. I guess that's why it's "beta" :)
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm on mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from mobile. So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser, timeless skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on another one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached, all the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details (e.g. the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we can look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project tag is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface got deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible for everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making this project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often even experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several cities in Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia we've discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used and combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for an advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users don't have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a first selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is much appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for how to use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the Arabic Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by the team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not least we would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who have supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket arwiki and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing menu. Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm on mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from mobile. So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser, timeless skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on another one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached, all the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details
(e.g.
the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we can look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project tag
is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface
got
deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible
for
everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making
this
project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often
even
experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out
when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia
we've
discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used
and
combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for
an
advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users
don't
have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a
first
selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work
on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and
Arabic
Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is
much
appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for
how to
use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to
thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the
Arabic
Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by
the
team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not
least we
would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who
have
supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket
group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket
arwiki
and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
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Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing menu. Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm on mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from mobile. So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser, timeless skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on another one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached, all the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details
(e.g.
the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we can look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project tag
is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in, and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge css problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch interface
got
deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible
for
everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from the Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making
this
project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often
even
experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out
when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia
we've
discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be used
and
combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks for
an
advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users
don't
have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a
first
selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to work
on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and
Arabic
Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback is
much
appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for
how to
use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to
thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with us. We would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the
Arabic
Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and for offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported by
the
team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not
least we
would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who
have
supported this project from the start and who have done (and still do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket
group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket
arwiki
and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Hey,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com:
Really impressive !
thanks :-)
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Good point! We can summarize the reasoning and add it to the info page by beginning/mid of next week, so that it's available before the next deployments.
Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm
on
mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from
mobile.
So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser,
timeless
skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on
another
one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached,
all
the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details
(e.g.
the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we
can
look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project
tag
is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in,
and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge
css
problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
got
deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours
ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
for
everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from
the
Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making
this
project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end
of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often
even
experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out
when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia
we've
discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax
works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be
used
and
combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks
for
an
advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team
has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users
don't
have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can
learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a
first
selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to
work
on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We
plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and
Arabic
Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback
is
much
appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for
how to
use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different
people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to
thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with
us. We
would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the
Arabic
Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and
for
offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported
by
the
team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not
least we
would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who
have
supported this project from the start and who have done (and still
do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket
group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket
arwiki
and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
für
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Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
für
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Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com:
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch/Functio... .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords on the central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because I'm
on
mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from
mobile.
So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser,
timeless
skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on
another
one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached,
all
the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details
(e.g.
the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that we
can
look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project
tag
is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in,
and I
can
only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a huge
css
problem. User:IKhitron (Igal)
On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
(sorry for cross-posting ...)
Hello all,
we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
got
deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours
ago.
[1]
AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
form
and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
for
everyone. [2]
The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from
the
Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped making
this
project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the end
of
this
email :-) [3]
*Why AdvancedSearch*
The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but often
even
experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found out
when
we
were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia
we've
discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax
works
and
how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be
used
and
combined to get the desired results.
The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks
for
an
advanced search interface. [4]
*The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team
has
been
implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users
don't
have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can
learn
about
it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a
first
selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to
work
on
a
'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We
plan to
add
support for this in the future, too.
If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German and
Arabic
Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5]
In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the new
feature
on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback
is
much
appreciated!
Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch for
how to
use AdvancedSearch.
Deployments to other wikis can follow later.
*Thank you (finally!)*
This project was developed with the support from many different
people
from
the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to
thank
the
folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the
workshops
and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with
us. We
would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback on Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the
Arabic
Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and
for
offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for the development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team, supported
by
the
team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not
least we
would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team who
have
supported this project from the start and who have done (and still
do)
the
necessary backend work that now got supported by the AdvancedSearch extension.
Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-)
Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket
group
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc edSearch/Workshop [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket
arwiki
and dewiki)
-- Birgit Müller Community Communications Manager Software Development and Engineering
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
für
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Hello again, Birgit. Thank you for the links. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like that "Functional scope and planned changes of the Advanced Search extension" misses the "local:" keyword. Igal (User:IKhitron)
2017-11-29 16:33 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com :
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope_and_planned_changes_of_ the_AdvancedSearch_extension .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords on the central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because
I'm
on
mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from
mobile.
So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser,
timeless
skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on
another
one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result looks completely different there, but still broken, see the file attached,
all
the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" <birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hi Igal,
thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more details
(e.g.
the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that
we
can
look into it?
Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator, project
tag
is
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/.
Thans and cheers, Birgit
2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com:
> Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted in,
and I
can > only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a
huge
css
> problem. > User:IKhitron (Igal) > > > > On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
> wrote: > > (sorry for cross-posting ...) > > > Hello all, > > we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
got
> deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2 hours
ago.
[1] > > AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
form > and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
for
> everyone. [2] > > The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates from
the
> Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped
making
this
> project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the
end
of
this > email :-) [3] > > *Why AdvancedSearch* > > The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but
often
even
> experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found
out
when
we > were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
> Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German Wikipedia
we've
> discussed their desired search queries, explained how the syntax
works
and > how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be
used
and
> combined to get the desired results. > > The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
> where we not only discussed search but also designed first mocks
for
an
> advanced search interface. [4] > > > > *The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
> supports some of the special search options the WMF's search team
has
been > implemented in the last years. The way the interface works, users
don't
> have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can
learn
about > it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes with a
first
> selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support for > "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started to
work
on
a > 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We
plan to
add > support for this in the future, too. > > If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German
and
Arabic
> Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5] > > In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the
new
feature > on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any feedback
is
much
> appreciated! > > Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
for
how to
> use AdvancedSearch. > > Deployments to other wikis can follow later. > > *Thank you (finally!)* > > This project was developed with the support from many different
people
from > the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like to
thank
the > folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in the workshops > and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with
us. We
> would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback
on
> Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank the
Arabic
> Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch, and
for
> offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for
the
> development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team,
supported
by
the
> team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really not
least we
> would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team
who
have
> supported this project from the start and who have done (and
still
do)
the > necessary backend work that now got supported by the
AdvancedSearch
> extension. > > Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-) > > Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team) > > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment ticket
group
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
> [4] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc > edSearch/Workshop > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment ticket
arwiki
> and > dewiki) > > > > -- > Birgit Müller > Community Communications Manager > Software Development and Engineering > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > http://wikimedia.de > > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
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Hi Igal,
thanks for the heads up!
The current list doesn't contain all existing keywords/options, but all the keywords/options we've discussed in detail so that we could come up with a decision which keywords we can/can't support or plan to support for now. We plan to investigate more during the beta phase and update the list accordingly. I will add this explanation to the list, too!
2017-11-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
Hello again, Birgit. Thank you for the links. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like that "Functional scope and planned changes of the Advanced Search extension" misses the "local:" keyword. Igal (User:IKhitron)
2017-11-29 16:33 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>
:
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope_and_planned_changes_of_ the_AdvancedSearch_extension .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords on
the
central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by
going
to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, because
I'm
on
mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from
mobile.
So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser,
timeless
skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on
another
one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result
looks
completely different there, but still broken, see the file
attached,
all
the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, Igal.
On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote:
> Hi Igal, > > thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more
details
(e.g.
> the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so that
we
can
> look into it? > > Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator,
project
tag
is
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/. > > Thans and cheers, > Birgit > > > > 2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com: > > > Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted
in,
and I
> can > > only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a
huge
css
> > problem. > > User:IKhitron (Igal) > > > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
> > wrote: > > > > (sorry for cross-posting ...) > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
got
> > deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2
hours
ago.
> [1] > > > > AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
> form > > and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
for
> > everyone. [2] > > > > The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates
from
the
> > Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped
making
this
> > project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at the
end
of
> this > > email :-) [3] > > > > *Why AdvancedSearch* > > > > The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but
often
even
> > experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we found
out
when
> we > > were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in several
cities in
> > Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German
Wikipedia
we've
> > discussed their desired search queries, explained how the
syntax
works
> and > > how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can be
used
and
> > combined to get the desired results. > > > > The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these
workshops,
> > where we not only discussed search but also designed first
mocks
for
an
> > advanced search interface. [4] > > > > > > > > *The first version, more deployments and other next
steps*AdvancedSearch
> > supports some of the special search options the WMF's search
team
has
> been > > implemented in the last years. The way the interface works,
users
don't
> > have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they can
learn
> about > > it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes
with a
first
> > selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support
for
> > "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started
to
work
on
> a > > 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen. We
plan to
> add > > support for this in the future, too. > > > > If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on German
and
Arabic
> > Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5] > > > > In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test the
new
> feature > > on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any
feedback
is
much
> > appreciated! > > > > Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
for
how to
> > use AdvancedSearch. > > > > Deployments to other wikis can follow later. > > > > *Thank you (finally!)* > > > > This project was developed with the support from many different
people
> from > > the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would like
to
thank
> the > > folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in
the
> workshops > > and who were discussing and designing first ideas together with
us. We
> > would like to thank all other people who gave valuable feedback
on
> > Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank
the
Arabic
> > Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch,
and
for
> > offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit for
the
> > development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team,
supported
by
the
> > team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really
not
least we
> > would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search team
who
have
> > supported this project from the start and who have done (and
still
do)
> the > > necessary backend work that now got supported by the
AdvancedSearch
> > extension. > > > > Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-) > > > > Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team) > > > > > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment
ticket
group
> 0) > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch > > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
AdvancedSearch
> > [4] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc > > edSearch/Workshop > > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment
ticket
arwiki
> > and > > dewiki) > > > > > > > > -- > > Birgit Müller > > Community Communications Manager > > Software Development and Engineering > > > > > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > > http://wikimedia.de > > > > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der
Menge
allen
> > Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > > http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien
Wissens
e.V.
> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
> unter > > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
> > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > -- > Birgit Müller > Community Communications Manager > Software Development and Engineering > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > http://wikimedia.de > > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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I see. I just thought it will be very helpful l to add the local checkbox to the advanced search, from all the keywords that are not still there. Igal
2017-11-29 17:57 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hi Igal,
thanks for the heads up!
The current list doesn't contain all existing keywords/options, but all the keywords/options we've discussed in detail so that we could come up with a decision which keywords we can/can't support or plan to support for now. We plan to investigate more during the beta phase and update the list accordingly. I will add this explanation to the list, too!
2017-11-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
Hello again, Birgit. Thank you for the links. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like that "Functional scope and planned
changes
of the Advanced Search extension" misses the "local:" keyword. Igal (User:IKhitron)
2017-11-29 16:33 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>
:
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope_and_planned_changes_of_ the_AdvancedSearch_extension .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords on
the
central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:
AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to
editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by
going
to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the
most
hidden thing ever)
-- bawolff
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket,
because
I'm
on
> mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator from
mobile.
> So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal browser,
timeless
> skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it on
another
> one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result
looks
> completely different there, but still broken, see the file
attached,
all
> the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, > Igal. > > > On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
wrote: > >> Hi Igal, >> >> thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more
details
(e.g. >> the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so
that
we
can
>> look into it? >> >> Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator,
project
tag
is >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/. >> >> Thans and cheers, >> Birgit >> >> >> >> 2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com: >> >> > Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just opted
in,
and I
>> can >> > only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks like a
huge
css
>> > problem. >> > User:IKhitron (Igal) >> > >> > >> > >> > On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
>> > wrote: >> > >> > (sorry for cross-posting ...) >> > >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
got >> > deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2
hours
ago.
>> [1] >> > >> > AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
>> form >> > and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
for >> > everyone. [2] >> > >> > The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates
from
the
>> > Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams helped
making
this >> > project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at
the
end
of
>> this >> > email :-) [3] >> > >> > *Why AdvancedSearch* >> > >> > The Search has great options to perform advanced queries, but
often
even >> > experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we
found
out
when >> we >> > were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in
several
cities in >> > Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German
Wikipedia
we've >> > discussed their desired search queries, explained how the
syntax
works
>> and >> > how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle" can
be
used
and >> > combined to get the desired results. >> > >> > The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of these workshops, >> > where we not only discussed search but also designed first
mocks
for
an >> > advanced search interface. [4] >> > >> > >> > >> > *The first version, more deployments and other next steps*AdvancedSearch >> > supports some of the special search options the WMF's search
team
has
>> been >> > implemented in the last years. The way the interface works,
users
don't >> > have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they
can
learn
>> about >> > it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes
with a
first >> > selection of advanced search options, e.g. including support
for
>> > "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has started
to
work
on >> a >> > 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen.
We
plan to
>> add >> > support for this in the future, too. >> > >> > If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on
German
and
Arabic >> > Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5] >> > >> > In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test
the
new
>> feature >> > on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any
feedback
is
much >> > appreciated! >> > >> > Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/
wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
for
how to >> > use AdvancedSearch. >> > >> > Deployments to other wikis can follow later. >> > >> > *Thank you (finally!)* >> > >> > This project was developed with the support from many
different
people
>> from >> > the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would
like
to
thank >> the >> > folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated in
the
>> workshops >> > and who were discussing and designing first ideas together
with
us. We
>> > would like to thank all other people who gave valuable
feedback
on
>> > Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to thank
the
Arabic >> > Wikipedia community for getting interested in AdvancedSearch,
and
for
>> > offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit
for
the
>> > development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team,
supported
by
the >> > team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but really
not
least we >> > would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search
team
who
have >> > supported this project from the start and who have done (and
still
do)
>> the >> > necessary backend work that now got supported by the
AdvancedSearch
>> > extension. >> > >> > Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-) >> > >> > Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team) >> > >> > >> > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment
ticket
group >> 0) >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch >> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch >> > [4] >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Advanc >> > edSearch/Workshop >> > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment
ticket
arwiki >> > and >> > dewiki) >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Birgit Müller >> > Community Communications Manager >> > Software Development and Engineering >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
>> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 >> > http://wikimedia.de >> > >> > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der
Menge
allen
>> > Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! >> > http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ >> > >> > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien
Wissens
e.V.
>> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> unter >> > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
>> > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Birgit Müller >> Community Communications Manager >> Software Development and Engineering >> >> >> >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 >> http://wikimedia.de >> >> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der
Menge
allen
>> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! >> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien
Wissens
e.V.
>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter >> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
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Hey,
2017-11-29 16:59 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
I see. I just thought it will be very helpful l to add the local checkbox to the advanced search, from all the keywords that are not still there. Igal
If you find the time, it would be great if you could share how and for what you use "local" and why it is helpful for you! Best place for that would be https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:AdvancedSearch.
Thanks again, Birgit
2017-11-29 17:57 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hi Igal,
thanks for the heads up!
The current list doesn't contain all existing keywords/options, but all
the
keywords/options we've discussed in detail so that we could come up with
a
decision which keywords we can/can't support or plan to support for now.
We
plan to investigate more during the beta phase and update the list accordingly. I will add this explanation to the list, too!
2017-11-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
Hello again, Birgit. Thank you for the links. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like that "Functional scope and planned
changes
of the Advanced Search extension" misses the "local:" keyword. Igal (User:IKhitron)
2017-11-29 16:33 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller <birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
:
Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>
:
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning that went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope_and_planned_changes_of_ the_AdvancedSearch_extension .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords
on
the
central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:
AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to
editing
menu.
Igal
On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
> Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by
going
> to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the
most
> hidden thing ever) > > -- > bawolff > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון <
khitron@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket,
because
I'm
on
> > mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator
from
mobile.
> > So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal
browser,
timeless
> > skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did it
on
another
> > one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the result
looks
> > completely different there, but still broken, see the file
attached,
all
> > the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, > > Igal. > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
> wrote: > > > >> Hi Igal, > >> > >> thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more
details
> (e.g. > >> the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot so
that
we
can
> >> look into it? > >> > >> Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator,
project
tag
> is > >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/. > >> > >> Thans and cheers, > >> Birgit > >> > >> > >> > >> 2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com: > >> > >> > Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just
opted
in,
and I
> >> can > >> > only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks
like a
huge
css
> >> > problem. > >> > User:IKhitron (Igal) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de>
> >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > (sorry for cross-posting ...) > >> > > >> > > >> > Hello all, > >> > > >> > we're really happy to announce that the new AdvancedSearch
interface
> got > >> > deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test just 2
hours
ago.
> >> [1] > >> > > >> > AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an advanced
parameters
> >> form > >> > and aims to make existing search options more visible and
accessible
> for > >> > everyone. [2] > >> > > >> > The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and originates
from
the
> >> > Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams
helped
making
> this > >> > project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section at
the
end
of
> >> this > >> > email :-) [3] > >> > > >> > *Why AdvancedSearch* > >> > > >> > The Search has great options to perform advanced queries,
but
often
> even > >> > experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we
found
out
> when > >> we > >> > were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in
several
> cities in > >> > Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German
Wikipedia
> we've > >> > discussed their desired search queries, explained how the
syntax
works
> >> and > >> > how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle"
can
be
used
> and > >> > combined to get the desired results. > >> > > >> > The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of
these
> workshops, > >> > where we not only discussed search but also designed first
mocks
for
> an > >> > advanced search interface. [4] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > *The first version, more deployments and other next > steps*AdvancedSearch > >> > supports some of the special search options the WMF's
search
team
has
> >> been > >> > implemented in the last years. The way the interface works,
users
> don't > >> > have to know the syntax behind each search field, but they
can
learn
> >> about > >> > it if they want to. The first version of the feature comes
with a
> first > >> > selection of advanced search options, e.g. including
support
for
> >> > "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has
started
to
work
> on > >> a > >> > 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search happen.
We
plan to
> >> add > >> > support for this in the future, too. > >> > > >> > If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on
German
and
> Arabic > >> > Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5] > >> > > >> > In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to test
the
new
> >> feature > >> > on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any
feedback
is
> much > >> > appreciated! > >> > > >> > Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/
wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
for
> how to > >> > use AdvancedSearch. > >> > > >> > Deployments to other wikis can follow later. > >> > > >> > *Thank you (finally!)* > >> > > >> > This project was developed with the support from many
different
people
> >> from > >> > the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would
like
to
> thank > >> the > >> > folks from the German Wikipedia community who participated
in
the
> >> workshops > >> > and who were discussing and designing first ideas together
with
us. We
> >> > would like to thank all other people who gave valuable
feedback
on
> >> > Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to
thank
the
> Arabic > >> > Wikipedia community for getting interested in
AdvancedSearch,
and
for
> >> > offering to test this feature in an early stage. The credit
for
the
> >> > development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team,
supported
by
> the > >> > team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but
really
not
> least we > >> > would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search
team
who
> have > >> > supported this project from the start and who have done
(and
still
do)
> >> the > >> > necessary backend work that now got supported by the
AdvancedSearch
> >> > extension. > >> > > >> > Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-) > >> > > >> > Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team) > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147 (Deployment
ticket
> group > >> 0) > >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch > >> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ > AdvancedSearch > >> > [4] > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
Advanc
> >> > edSearch/Workshop > >> > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128 (Deployment
ticket
> arwiki > >> > and > >> > dewiki) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Birgit Müller > >> > Community Communications Manager > >> > Software Development and Engineering > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
> >> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > >> > http://wikimedia.de > >> > > >> > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der
Menge
allen
> >> > Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > >> > http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > >> > > >> > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien
Wissens
e.V.
> >> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
> >> unter > >> > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
> >> > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikitech-l mailing list > >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikitech-l mailing list > >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Birgit Müller > >> Community Communications Manager > >> Software Development and Engineering > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
> >> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > >> http://wikimedia.de > >> > >> Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der
Menge
allen
> >> Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > >> http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > >> > >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien
Wissens
e.V.
> >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts
Berlin-Charlottenburg
> unter > >> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt
für
> >> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikitech-l mailing list > >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge
allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
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Done. Igal
2017-11-30 10:54 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hey,
2017-11-29 16:59 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
I see. I just thought it will be very helpful l to add the local checkbox to the advanced search, from all the keywords that are not still there. Igal
If you find the time, it would be great if you could share how and for what you use "local" and why it is helpful for you! Best place for that would be https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:AdvancedSearch.
Thanks again, Birgit
2017-11-29 17:57 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de:
Hi Igal,
thanks for the heads up!
The current list doesn't contain all existing keywords/options, but all
the
keywords/options we've discussed in detail so that we could come up
with
a
decision which keywords we can/can't support or plan to support for
now.
We
plan to investigate more during the beta phase and update the list accordingly. I will add this explanation to the list, too!
2017-11-29 15:37 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון khitron@post.bgu.ac.il:
Hello again, Birgit. Thank you for the links. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like that "Functional scope and planned
changes
of the Advanced Search extension" misses the "local:" keyword. Igal (User:IKhitron)
2017-11-29 16:33 GMT+02:00 Birgit Müller <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
:
Hey Derk-Jan,
2017-11-22 13:49 GMT+01:00 Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>
:
Really impressive !
I wonder if we can add to the information page, the reasoning
that
went into selecting which of the advanced options to include, and which to exclude.
Done! See: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope_and_planned_changes_of_ the_AdvancedSearch_extension .
And there is a link to the list of supported/non supported keywords
on
the
central help page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:
AdvancedSearch#Background
Cheers, Birgit
DJ
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:10 AM, יגאל חיטרון khitron@gmail.com
wrote:
> Wow. Thanks a lot! But you really should add a direct link to
editing
menu. > Igal > > > On Nov 22, 2017 02:02, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote: > >> Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile
by
going
>> to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its
the
most
>> hidden thing ever) >> >> -- >> bawolff >> >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון <
khitron@gmail.com>
wrote: >> > Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket,
because
I'm
on >> > mobile, and there is no way to upload a file to phabricator
from
mobile. >> > So, I'll answer you here. I'm on Lollipop, use internal
browser,
timeless >> > skin. I can't make a screenshot from this device, so I did
it
on
another >> > one, almost the same, just another OS version. And the
result
looks
>> > completely different there, but still broken, see the file
attached,
all >> > the section captures are almost hidden. Hope it helps, >> > Igal. >> > >> > >> > On Nov 22, 2017 01:12, "Birgit Müller" <
birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de
>> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Igal, >> >> >> >> thanks for letting us know! Could you maybe give a bit more
details
>> (e.g. >> >> the skin you use, operating system) and make a screenshot
so
that
we
can >> >> look into it? >> >> >> >> Best place to report that would be directly in Phabricator,
project
tag >> is >> >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/advanced-search/. >> >> >> >> Thans and cheers, >> >> Birgit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2017-11-21 23:51 GMT+01:00 יגאל חיטרון <khitron@gmail.com
:
>> >> >> >> > Hello. Great idea indeed. But it does not work. I just
opted
in,
and I >> >> can >> >> > only see broken rectangles and partial captures. Looks
like a
huge
css >> >> > problem. >> >> > User:IKhitron (Igal) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Nov 21, 2017 23:02, "Birgit Müller" < birgit.mueller@wikimedia.de> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > (sorry for cross-posting ...) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hello all, >> >> > >> >> > we're really happy to announce that the new
AdvancedSearch
interface >> got >> >> > deployed as a beta feature to Mediawiki.org and test
just 2
hours
ago. >> >> [1] >> >> > >> >> > AdvancedSearch enhances Special:Search through an
advanced
parameters >> >> form >> >> > and aims to make existing search options more visible and accessible >> for >> >> > everyone. [2] >> >> > >> >> > The feature is a project by WMDE's Tech team and
originates
from
the >> >> > Technical Wishes project. Many other people and teams
helped
making
>> this >> >> > project happen, so stay tuned for the thank you section
at
the
end
of >> >> this >> >> > email :-) [3] >> >> > >> >> > *Why AdvancedSearch* >> >> > >> >> > The Search has great options to perform advanced queries,
but
often
>> even >> >> > experienced editors don't know about it - this is what we
found
out
>> when >> >> we >> >> > were conducting a workshop series on advanced search in
several
>> cities in >> >> > Germany in 2016. Together with contributors from German
Wikipedia
>> we've >> >> > discussed their desired search queries, explained how the
syntax
works >> >> and >> >> > how keywords like "hastemplate", "filetype" or "intitle"
can
be
used >> and >> >> > combined to get the desired results. >> >> > >> >> > The idea for the AdvancedSearch feature results out of
these
>> workshops, >> >> > where we not only discussed search but also designed
first
mocks
for >> an >> >> > advanced search interface. [4] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > *The first version, more deployments and other next >> steps*AdvancedSearch >> >> > supports some of the special search options the WMF's
search
team
has >> >> been >> >> > implemented in the last years. The way the interface
works,
users
>> don't >> >> > have to know the syntax behind each search field, but
they
can
learn >> >> about >> >> > it if they want to. The first version of the feature
comes
with a
>> first >> >> > selection of advanced search options, e.g. including
support
for
>> >> > "hastemplate" or "intitle". The WMF's search team has
started
to
work >> on >> >> a >> >> > 'deepcat' functionality to make sub category search
happen.
We
plan to >> >> add >> >> > support for this in the future, too. >> >> > >> >> > If all goes well, we plan to deploy the beta feature on
German
and
>> Arabic >> >> > Wikipedia by Wednesday, Nov 29. [5] >> >> > >> >> > In the next 2-3 months we'd love to invite everyone to
test
the
new
>> >> feature >> >> > on those wikis: Comments, thoughs, bug reports ... - any
feedback
is >> much >> >> > appreciated! >> >> > >> >> > Please see https://www.mediawiki.org/
wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch
for
>> how to >> >> > use AdvancedSearch. >> >> > >> >> > Deployments to other wikis can follow later. >> >> > >> >> > *Thank you (finally!)* >> >> > >> >> > This project was developed with the support from many
different
people >> >> from >> >> > the start, and this makes it very special to us: We would
like
to
>> thank >> >> the >> >> > folks from the German Wikipedia community who
participated
in
the
>> >> workshops >> >> > and who were discussing and designing first ideas
together
with
us. We >> >> > would like to thank all other people who gave valuable
feedback
on
>> >> > Phabricator, onwiki and in real life. We would like to
thank
the
>> Arabic >> >> > Wikipedia community for getting interested in
AdvancedSearch,
and
for >> >> > offering to test this feature in an early stage. The
credit
for
the
>> >> > development work on AdvancedSearch goes to our FUN team,
supported
by >> the >> >> > team that usually works on Technical Wishes. Last but
really
not
>> least we >> >> > would like to thank the great folks from the WMF's search
team
who
>> have >> >> > supported this project from the start and who have done
(and
still
do) >> >> the >> >> > necessary backend work that now got supported by the
AdvancedSearch
>> >> > extension. >> >> > >> >> > Sorry for the long email, and thanks for reading :-) >> >> > >> >> > Birgit (for the Technical Wishes team) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180147
(Deployment
ticket
>> group >> >> 0) >> >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:AdvancedSearch >> >> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/
wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
>> AdvancedSearch >> >> > [4] >> >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/
Advanc
>> >> > edSearch/Workshop >> >> > [5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180128
(Deployment
ticket
>> arwiki >> >> > and >> >> > dewiki) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Birgit Müller >> >> > Community Communications Manager >> >> > Software Development and Engineering >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 |
10963
Berlin
>> >> > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 >> >> > http://wikimedia.de >> >> > >> >> > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an
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