Hi,
As you may know, the team Technical Wishes of Wikimedia Deutschland has worked on improving the wikitext diff view for over a year in order to fix a technical limitation: Whenever a paragraph was moved to another position on the page, it was displayed as a removed and added paragraph and users had to manually check if the text in the paragraph was altered or not.
With the improvements in the diff code, the algorithm now recognizes paragraphs as moved, displays moved paragraphs as such and highlights changes within them. The desktop version of this was already deployed to most wikis end of May. Since today it’s available on all wikis. More details and before/after screenshots can be found here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Show_text_changes_when...
As of today, moved paragraphs are also shown correctly on mobile. The Wikimedia Foundation’s Readers Web team developed styles for the mobile diff view, based on the recent improvements in the wikidiff code.
A big thanks to everyone involved, especially to the Readers Web team for bringing the feature to mobile devices!
Michi
for the Technical Wishes team
PS: Diffs are cached for up to 7 days, so it might take a few days until diffs of previous changes are generated with the new version.
Thank you very much Michael.
To give the non-editors an idea of the importance, the sizes of the headaches, and the amount of time that editors were spending on trying to understand complex diffs, I've seen multiple complex diffs used in questions for candidates for English Wikipedia Administrator and Arbitration Committee roles. The new desktop interface should make everyone's tasks easier and save considerable time.
On the page that you link, I see only one image with a mobile view. Could you provide examples of the before and after views on mobile, preferably using the same text that you used for the desktop interface?
Thanks again for the good work.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:15 PM Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi,
As you may know, the team Technical Wishes of Wikimedia Deutschland has worked on improving the wikitext diff view for over a year in order to fix a technical limitation: Whenever a paragraph was moved to another position on the page, it was displayed as a removed and added paragraph and users had to manually check if the text in the paragraph was altered or not.
With the improvements in the diff code, the algorithm now recognizes paragraphs as moved, displays moved paragraphs as such and highlights changes within them. The desktop version of this was already deployed to most wikis end of May. Since today it’s available on all wikis. More details and before/after screenshots can be found here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Show_text_changes_when...
As of today, moved paragraphs are also shown correctly on mobile. The Wikimedia Foundation’s Readers Web team developed styles for the mobile diff view, based on the recent improvements in the wikidiff code.
A big thanks to everyone involved, especially to the Readers Web team for bringing the feature to mobile devices!
Michi
for the Technical Wishes team
PS: Diffs are cached for up to 7 days, so it might take a few days until diffs of previous changes are generated with the new version.
-- Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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This is good work and a nice feature.
Thanks!
Subbu.
On 08/23/2018 08:14 AM, Michael Schönitzer wrote:
Hi,
As you may know, the team Technical Wishes of Wikimedia Deutschland has worked on improving the wikitext diff view for over a year in order to fix a technical limitation: Whenever a paragraph was moved to another position on the page, it was displayed as a removed and added paragraph and users had to manually check if the text in the paragraph was altered or not.
With the improvements in the diff code, the algorithm now recognizes paragraphs as moved, displays moved paragraphs as such and highlights changes within them. The desktop version of this was already deployed to most wikis end of May. Since today it’s available on all wikis. More details and before/after screenshots can be found here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Show_text_changes_when...
As of today, moved paragraphs are also shown correctly on mobile. The Wikimedia Foundation’s Readers Web team developed styles for the mobile diff view, based on the recent improvements in the wikidiff code.
A big thanks to everyone involved, especially to the Readers Web team for bringing the feature to mobile devices!
Michi
for the Technical Wishes team
PS: Diffs are cached for up to 7 days, so it might take a few days until diffs of previous changes are generated with the new version.
This is indeed a needed improvement. Great work!
Sam. ________________________________ From: Wikitech-l wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Subramanya Sastry ssastry@wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:08:01 PM To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Improvements to the wikitext diff view
This is good work and a nice feature.
Thanks!
Subbu.
On 08/23/2018 08:14 AM, Michael Schönitzer wrote:
Hi,
As you may know, the team Technical Wishes of Wikimedia Deutschland has worked on improving the wikitext diff view for over a year in order to fix a technical limitation: Whenever a paragraph was moved to another position on the page, it was displayed as a removed and added paragraph and users had to manually check if the text in the paragraph was altered or not.
With the improvements in the diff code, the algorithm now recognizes paragraphs as moved, displays moved paragraphs as such and highlights changes within them. The desktop version of this was already deployed to most wikis end of May. Since today it’s available on all wikis. More details and before/after screenshots can be found here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Show_text_changes_when...
As of today, moved paragraphs are also shown correctly on mobile. The Wikimedia Foundation’s Readers Web team developed styles for the mobile diff view, based on the recent improvements in the wikidiff code.
A big thanks to everyone involved, especially to the Readers Web team for bringing the feature to mobile devices!
Michi
for the Technical Wishes team
PS: Diffs are cached for up to 7 days, so it might take a few days until diffs of previous changes are generated with the new version.
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This will make so many monitoring tasks much easier and lead to their being done better and more frequently. It is hard to conceive of any drawback to it. Even there turn out to be some bugs, this is a great improvement. Thanks.
Thanks a lot for all the friendly feedback!
@Pine: Today I have a travel day, but I'll make some more screenshots on Monday and ping you then.
Cheers, M
2018-08-24 2:43 GMT+02:00 Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com:
This will make so many monitoring tasks much easier and lead to their being done better and more frequently. It is hard to conceive of any drawback to it. Even there turn out to be some bugs, this is a great improvement. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Hi Pine and others,
I made another before-after-screenshot for the mobile-version with the "Honeyguide"-Example also used for screenshots on desktop-version:
- Mobil: - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_before_mo... - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_after_mob... - Desktop: - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_before2.p... - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_after2.pn...
You can also use our test-wikis to view the changes with more and more complex diffs, for example: Desktop, before: https://wmde-wikidiff2-unpatched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php?title=Test1&type=revision&diff=34&oldid=30 Desktop, after: https://wmde-wikidiff2-patched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php?title=Test1&type=revision&diff=34&oldid=30 Mobil, before: https://wmde-wikidiff2-unpatched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php/Special:MobileDiff/30...34 Mobil, after: https://wmde-wikidiff2-mobile.wmflabs.org/core/index.php/ Special:MobileDiff/30...34
Cheers, M
Am 24. August 2018 um 13:27 schrieb Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de>:
Thanks a lot for all the friendly feedback!
@Pine: Today I have a travel day, but I'll make some more screenshots on Monday and ping you then.
Cheers, M
2018-08-24 2:43 GMT+02:00 Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com:
This will make so many monitoring tasks much easier and lead to their being done better and more frequently. It is hard to conceive of any drawback to it. Even there turn out to be some bugs, this is a great improvement. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Thank you!
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:20 AM Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi Pine and others,
I made another before-after-screenshot for the mobile-version with the "Honeyguide"-Example also used for screenshots on desktop-version:
- Mobil:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_before_mo... -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_after_mob...
- Desktop:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_before2.p... -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ImprovedDiff_-_Example_1_-_after2.pn...
You can also use our test-wikis to view the changes with more and more complex diffs, for example: Desktop, before: https://wmde-wikidiff2-unpatched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php?title=Test1&type=revision&diff=34&oldid=30 Desktop, after: https://wmde-wikidiff2-patched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php?title=Test1&type=revision&diff=34&oldid=30 Mobil, before: https://wmde-wikidiff2-unpatched.wmflabs.org/core/ index.php/Special:MobileDiff/30...34 Mobil, after: https://wmde-wikidiff2-mobile.wmflabs.org/core/index.php/ Special:MobileDiff/30...34
Cheers, M
Am 24. August 2018 um 13:27 schrieb Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de>:
Thanks a lot for all the friendly feedback!
@Pine: Today I have a travel day, but I'll make some more screenshots on Monday and ping you then.
Cheers, M
2018-08-24 2:43 GMT+02:00 Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com:
This will make so many monitoring tasks much easier and lead to their being done better and more frequently. It is hard to conceive of any drawback to it. Even there turn out to be some bugs, this is a great improvement. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
-- Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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