Let's find all the empty help etc. page links that come with MediaWiki.
Special:Wantedpages doesn't tell the whole story. There are tons of empty help page links that the user will stumble into. I wish to track them down and fill them in before users stumble into them.
I can at least redirect them to existing pages. E.g., various help and FAQ links can be redirected to my site's single help page.
Those missing page names are perhaps all in languages/messages/Messages*.php in the section that start with "# All link text and link target definitions of links"
Wait, maybe instead of redirecting them, I just should edit Mediawiki:edithelppage etc. to point to my single Project:Help.
Anyway, first I must assemble a list of which ones are actually missing. I suppose I must probe their URLs.
Wait, maybe I need only deal with the ones users are most likely to encounter.
No, I don't want to really fill in every different helpful help page, but instead just link them to my monolithic single help page.
I do have to question whether we actually want to package so many links to nonexistent policy pages.
On Thursday 26 July 2007 01:57:23 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
Let's find all the empty help etc. page links that come with MediaWiki.
This problem has been already adressed by me and others and partly solved in the past but solving it entirely is a quite time consuming task.
I did adress this problem with various efforts: * Plain MediaWiki (without extensions) only allows this list of page links: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Page_customizati... This is already a big reduction compared to the state before. * Any MediaWiki system message should link other (non-special) pages only if really needed. * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2007-January/029298.html * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8846 but more languages need to be done. There are even horrible failures like linking lokalised namespace names instead of the canonical ones.
Special:Wantedpages doesn't tell the whole story. There are tons of empty help page links that the user will stumble into. I wish to track them down and fill them in before users stumble into them.
Missing pages linked by MediaWiki messages that are only transcluded from the system messages into the MediaWiki namespace do not show up in Special:Wantedpages.
languages/messages/Messages*.php in the section that start with "# All link text and link target definitions of links" Wait, maybe instead of redirecting them, I just should edit Mediawiki:edithelppage etc. to point to my single Project:Help.
This was introduced by me but still needs to be applied to all language files.
Anyway, first I must assemble a list of which ones are actually missing. I suppose I must probe their URLs. No, I don't want to really fill in every different helpful help page, but instead just link them to my monolithic single help page.
That's why thee are link definition pages. You don't need to touch every single message but just a couple of link definition pages if the Messages*.php file is correct.
Anyways I really could need any helping hand in order to apply this to all remaining message files.
Cheers, Arnomane
Hoi, Nikerabit has done a lot of great work on BetaWiki. We want to make his functionality part of the Incubator and have as much as possible all translations done there. Obviously there are some messages that are specific to a particular wiki as they have policy or local kinds of information on them but we really want one place where all messages are managed.
The patches that Nikerabit created are waiting for someone to go over and integrate it into MediaWiki.
Many of the issues you raise seem to be ones that have been dealt with by Nikerabit. PLEASE, please integrate the two efforts and make this something we can be proud of,
Thanks, GerardM
On 7/26/07, Daniel Arnold arnomane@gmx.de wrote:
On Thursday 26 July 2007 01:57:23 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
Let's find all the empty help etc. page links that come with MediaWiki.
This problem has been already adressed by me and others and partly solved in the past but solving it entirely is a quite time consuming task.
I did adress this problem with various efforts:
- Plain MediaWiki (without extensions) only allows this list of page
links:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Page_customizati... This is already a big reduction compared to the state before.
- Any MediaWiki system message should link other (non-special) pages only
if really needed.
- http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2007-January/029298.html
- http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8846 but more languages
need to be done. There are even horrible failures like linking lokalised namespace names instead of the canonical ones.
Special:Wantedpages doesn't tell the whole story. There are tons of empty help page links that the user will stumble into. I wish to track them down and fill them in before users stumble into them.
Missing pages linked by MediaWiki messages that are only transcluded from the system messages into the MediaWiki namespace do not show up in Special:Wantedpages.
languages/messages/Messages*.php in the section that start with "# All link text and link target definitions of links" Wait, maybe instead of redirecting them, I just should edit Mediawiki:edithelppage etc. to point to my single Project:Help.
This was introduced by me but still needs to be applied to all language files.
Anyway, first I must assemble a list of which ones are actually missing. I suppose I must probe their URLs. No, I don't want to really fill in every different helpful help page, but instead just link them to my monolithic single help page.
That's why thee are link definition pages. You don't need to touch every single message but just a couple of link definition pages if the Messages*.php file is correct.
Anyways I really could need any helping hand in order to apply this to all remaining message files.
Cheers, Arnomane
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