On a second thought, do we want to add an optional "affiliation" field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in braces?
- DGarry (WMF) - Fred (DesignSolutionsInc) - David (MIT) - ...
So the signup form would look like this:
------------------------------------------------------------- | | | [ Username preview in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | ___________________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | ___________________ | | | -------------------------------------------------------------
I.e.
------------------------------------------------------------- | | | [ "Gryllida (FOO)" in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | _Gryllida__________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | _FOO_______________ | | | -------------------------------------------------------------
Gryllida.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
hi,
could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
- it should knows "groups"
- allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
- allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
- add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of interest"
- display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history
views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group page, or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
reason: currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most prominent examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the main reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
- have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive
for other users
- make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the german community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
what you think?
best regards, rupert
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Affiliations change, and user names are quite difficult to change, this sounds like something that would be good for a structured profile, not for a user name.
*Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Gryllida gryllida@fastmail.fm wrote:
On a second thought, do we want to add an optional "affiliation" field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in braces?
- DGarry (WMF)
- Fred (DesignSolutionsInc)
- David (MIT)
- ...
So the signup form would look like this:
| | | [ Username preview in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | ___________________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | ___________________ | | |
I.e.
| | | [ "Gryllida (FOO)" in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | _Gryllida__________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | _FOO_______________ | | |
Gryllida.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
hi,
could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
- it should knows "groups"
- allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
- allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
- add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
interest"
- display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
history
views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
page,
or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
reason: currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most
prominent
examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the
main
reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
- have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive
for other users
- make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the
german
community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
what you think?
best regards, rupert
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One interesting idea might be what Reddit does:
For a moderator of a subreddit, whenever they make a post it just appears normally. However, after posting they can choose to "officiate" it. All that does is highlight their username a different color and indicates they are acting in their position as moderator rather than a regular user.
This idea could be applied to edits in core, and maybe posts in Flow. WMF employees in a special user group could make an edit, and then press a button on the history page to highlight that as an "official" edit.
*-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Jared Zimmerman < jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Affiliations change, and user names are quite difficult to change, this sounds like something that would be good for a structured profile, not for a user name.
*Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman< https://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman%3E
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Gryllida gryllida@fastmail.fm wrote:
On a second thought, do we want to add an optional "affiliation" field to the signup form, so the affiliation goes at the end of username in
braces?
- DGarry (WMF)
- Fred (DesignSolutionsInc)
- David (MIT)
- ...
So the signup form would look like this:
| | | [ Username preview in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | ___________________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | ___________________ | | |
I.e.
| | | [ "Gryllida (FOO)" in large green font ] | | | | Username: | | _Gryllida__________ | | Password: | | ___________________ | | Password 2: | | ___________________ | | Email (optional): | | ___________________ | | Affiliation (optional; if your editing is related to work): | | _FOO_______________ | | |
Gryllida.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 1:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
hi,
could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
- it should knows "groups"
- allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their
profile
- allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
- add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
interest"
- display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
history
views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
page,
or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
reason: currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it
is
quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most
prominent
examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users
tend
to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the
main
reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
- have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal
archive
for other users
- make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the
german
community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still
be
applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
what you think?
best regards, rupert
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On 05/07/2014 10:47 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
One interesting idea might be what Reddit does:
For a moderator of a subreddit, whenever they make a post it just appears normally. However, after posting they can choose to "officiate" it. All that does is highlight their username a different color and indicates they are acting in their position as moderator rather than a regular user.
This idea could be applied to edits in core, and maybe posts in Flow. WMF employees in a special user group could make an edit, and then press a button on the history page to highlight that as an "official" edit.
A similar proposal for per-edit affiliation selection came up recently in Zürich. It does sound more usable than having to log in using different accounts.
In our context it might make more sense to let the user select the affiliation at save time though, rather than making it an extra step after save.
Gabriel
On Thu, 8 May 2014, at 6:22, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
Affiliations change, and user names are quite difficult to change, this sounds like something that would be good for a structured profile, not for a user name.
One of the times I wish I could rename a thread. Someone with spare time may want to take notes of everything said here onto Meta for further discussion.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jared Zimmerman < jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Affiliations change, and user names are quite difficult to change, this sounds like something that would be good for a structured profile, not for a user name.
Indeed, or in the user preferences so that it could be accessed natively.
- Ryan
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