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I remember, a while ago, some was bold and enabled patrolling edits for Wikipedia. It was shortly disabled.
I think the main problem with this was that anyone could mark edits as patrolled. I have something akin to a feature request, which basically reinvisions how the patrol thing should work.
The basic thing is that the software will provide hooks for people to make patrols, but won't make it mandatory for everybody.
A patrol is a group of editors who have a mutual trust of each other's judgments. Whenever one person on that patrol marks an edit checked, everyone else knows about it. Preferably, each patrol should specialize (like check edits that are +-500 and anon), but some overlap is good. Eventually, there should be patrols covering all areas of changes.
To create a patrol, you'd have to meet certain requirements (like being an admin). You register the patrol on Wikipedia, mark down which areas of the recent changes you will check, and then recruit people. Only the patrol leader can recruit people, but it's recommended that they be democratic about it.
Anyone can "tune" into a patrol, that is, they can see what the patrollers have marked certain changes, but they can't mark a message under the name of the patrol until they've been recruited.
Recent changes, for anon and the totally unrecruited, will stay the way it is, but you will have the option to enable Patrol markings. We can color code them, or a user can assign different trust levels to the patrols and then use the overarching data on certain edits to determine their validity (this is like a huge forward jump in time).
The Wikimedia servers will have new Patrol chat rooms, which will be like the LiveRC but for Patrol information. Eventually, programs that can crunch patrol data and LiveRC data will be developed to assist patrolling.
The actual process of marking edits patrolled or not will use the existing infrastructure. We will not be making lots of new columns in the database, one column with a certain amount of bits (say two per patrol) will work.
* 00 - unpatrolled * 01 - dubious or * 10 - something here. * 11 - patrolled
If this isn't scalable, then we can make a new table just for patrols along the lines of
COLUMN PRIMARY_KEY rc_patrol_id COLUMN PRIMARY_KEY edit_id COLUMN status
What do you think?
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Edward Z. Yang wrote:
I remember, a while ago, some was bold and enabled patrolling edits for Wikipedia. It was shortly disabled.
I think the main problem with this was that anyone could mark edits as patrolled. I have something akin to a feature request, which basically reinvisions how the patrol thing should work.
Yes, that was a major problem. Note that any implementation must have the support of the editor community. It's not much use if only a few people are using it, so there really has to be a period of hype leading up to it being switched on. It's only worth switching on if the response is favourable during the lead-up.
-- Tim Starling
Hi,
I'd like to make a request to obtain access to anonymized apache logs for wikipedia user data.
I am creating a new interface for wikipedia that requires clustered user data (in that sense it is akin to the amazon recommendation system or, more originally, movielens).
For this I need access to user page requests over time- preferably stored in a database. I can provide a script that will translate users' ip addresses to a unique signature so that the users themselves remain anonymous.
Who might I talk to to arrange this?
Tony Pryor
Approval by committee, anyone?
See my proposal at [[w:en:User:R3m0t/Article validation]] - it's short, and it's more or less what Yang suggests here, except for article quality.
And by the way, I don't see the point of many patrol groups for something as simple as vandalism. Perhaps a degree of trust to a user, yes. ("Slightly trusted patroller" -> "Very trusted patroller")
On 21/07/05, Edward Z. Yang edwardzyang@thewritingpot.com wrote:
A patrol is a group of editors who have a mutual trust of each other's judgments. Whenever one person on that patrol marks an edit checked, everyone else knows about it. Preferably, each patrol should specialize (like check edits that are +-500 and anon), but some overlap is good. Eventually, there should be patrols covering all areas of changes.
To create a patrol, you'd have to meet certain requirements (like being an admin). You register the patrol on Wikipedia, mark down which areas of the recent changes you will check, and then recruit people. Only the patrol leader can recruit people, but it's recommended that they be democratic about it.
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