Hi,
I am participating in GSOC'12 with my proposal for Green SMW [1]. This proposal is about reducing the carbon footprint of SMW , in other words it will enhance the performance of SMW significantly. All the details are on [1], suggestions to improve or comments are most welcome.
I have also been contributing to MW with my new Extension:AllTimeZones [2], comments to that are welcomed as well. My other contributions to MW are listed here [3].
[1]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22/Gsoc [2]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllTimeZones [3]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22
I'll admit - I'm intrigued by the notion of carbon footprint reduction via software enhancements.. :)
I appreciate that you've concisely provided background on the what and how. I'm curious if you can expand a tad more on the why. To many the notion of energy conservation is very familiar - but in all fairness - I've suggested to others that they not assume everyone will know as much as they do - so a bit more info there wouldn't hurt.
You've been in IRC actively - so you're aware of that resource.
Same comment to SMW folks as Flickr folks - contemplate each other's proposals and be mindful of any overlap and the stated criteria like quality of apps, etc. Might not be a bad idea to see what others are proposing. :)
-greg aka varnent
On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, nischay nahata nischayn22@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am participating in GSOC'12 with my proposal for Green SMW [1]. This proposal is about reducing the carbon footprint of SMW , in other words it will enhance the performance of SMW significantly. All the details are on [1], suggestions to improve or comments are most welcome.
I have also been contributing to MW with my new Extension:AllTimeZones [2], comments to that are welcomed as well. My other contributions to MW are listed here [3].
[1]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22/Gsoc [2]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllTimeZones [3]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22
-- With Regards
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On 04/04/12 06:01, Gregory Varnum wrote:
I'll admit - I'm intrigued by the notion of carbon footprint reduction via software enhancements.. :)
I appreciate that you've concisely provided background on the what and how. I'm curious if you can expand a tad more on the why. To many the notion of energy conservation is very familiar - but in all fairness - I've suggested to others that they not assume everyone will know as much as they do - so a bit more info there wouldn't hurt.
The title "Green SMW" should not lead to wrong expectations. The goal of this project is to address a number of long-standing performance issues in various components. The tasks are based on concrete problem reports we got from various SMW users. Is this what you mean with the "why"? The goal is to take a more general perspective in "Green SMW" and to not optimize for one use-case only, but to address known architectural weaknesses that are causing these issues.
You've been in IRC actively - so you're aware of that resource.
Same comment to SMW folks as Flickr folks - contemplate each other's proposals and be mindful of any overlap and the stated criteria like quality of apps, etc. Might not be a bad idea to see what others are proposing. :)
I am not sure I know what you are referring to. I don't see Flickr-related projects that are similar to this project. We should of course be careful with overlaps, but I cannot see any issue there right now. Or maybe you meant something else?
Markus
On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, nischay nahatanischayn22@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am participating in GSOC'12 with my proposal for Green SMW [1]. This proposal is about reducing the carbon footprint of SMW , in other words it will enhance the performance of SMW significantly. All the details are on [1], suggestions to improve or comments are most welcome.
I have also been contributing to MW with my new Extension:AllTimeZones [2], comments to that are welcomed as well. My other contributions to MW are listed here [3].
[1]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22/Gsoc [2]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllTimeZones [3]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22
-- With Regards
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I was more referencing that like the Flickr applications - we have a case of multiple students proposing projects around similar topics. I'm not discouraging that by any means - just being transparent with folks to be mindful that we have a limited number of spots given to us by Google - so all of them being SMW related or Flickr related is unlikely. In others words, the competition for you is higher if you're proposing an idea in a similar topic area as other students. That shows that there are needs in those areas - certainly - which helps - but..well..hopefully you get what I'm trying to convey. :) I just don't want people surprised if one SMW proposal is accepted and theirs is not.
Oy - I love GSOC but the whole competition part makes me sad. :)
-greg
On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:41 AM, Markus Krötzsch markus@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote:
On 04/04/12 06:01, Gregory Varnum wrote:
I'll admit - I'm intrigued by the notion of carbon footprint reduction via software enhancements.. :)
I appreciate that you've concisely provided background on the what and how. I'm curious if you can expand a tad more on the why. To many the notion of energy conservation is very familiar - but in all fairness - I've suggested to others that they not assume everyone will know as much as they do - so a bit more info there wouldn't hurt.
The title "Green SMW" should not lead to wrong expectations. The goal of this project is to address a number of long-standing performance issues in various components. The tasks are based on concrete problem reports we got from various SMW users. Is this what you mean with the "why"? The goal is to take a more general perspective in "Green SMW" and to not optimize for one use-case only, but to address known architectural weaknesses that are causing these issues.
You've been in IRC actively - so you're aware of that resource.
Same comment to SMW folks as Flickr folks - contemplate each other's proposals and be mindful of any overlap and the stated criteria like quality of apps, etc. Might not be a bad idea to see what others are proposing. :)
I am not sure I know what you are referring to. I don't see Flickr-related projects that are similar to this project. We should of course be careful with overlaps, but I cannot see any issue there right now. Or maybe you meant something else?
Markus
On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, nischay nahatanischayn22@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am participating in GSOC'12 with my proposal for Green SMW [1]. This proposal is about reducing the carbon footprint of SMW , in other words it will enhance the performance of SMW significantly. All the details are on [1], suggestions to improve or comments are most welcome.
I have also been contributing to MW with my new Extension:AllTimeZones [2], comments to that are welcomed as well. My other contributions to MW are listed here [3].
[1]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22/Gsoc [2]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllTimeZones [3]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22
-- With Regards
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On 04/05/2012 02:49 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote:
I was more referencing that like the Flickr applications - we have a case of multiple students proposing projects around similar topics. I'm not discouraging that by any means - just being transparent with folks to be mindful that we have a limited number of spots given to us by Google - so all of them being SMW related or Flickr related is unlikely. In others words, the competition for you is higher if you're proposing an idea in a similar topic area as other students. That shows that there are needs in those areas - certainly - which helps - but..well..hopefully you get what I'm trying to convey. :) I just don't want people surprised if one SMW proposal is accepted and theirs is not.
To be specific: the conflicts I know about do not include Semantic MediaWiki. They are:
Flickr upload: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Drecodeam/GSoC_2012_Application and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Davidpardz/GSoC_2012_application and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Johnnorro/GSoC_2012_application and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Trinhtomsk/GSoC_2012_application . Drecodeam's application is the one that has a mentor championing it (Ryan Kaldari).
Watchlist: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Bagariavivek/GSoC_Application and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Blackjack48/GSOC_proposal_for_watchlist_... (also the evidently abandoned proposal https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Deepanshu/GSoC_Application )
Editor rewards/ "Who's been awesome": https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Shubh09/gsoc and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Erangamapa/mygsoc
Historically, sometimes we receive multiple proposals for very similar tasks for Google Summer of Code, but we only accept one. Factors going into our decision will include: which proposal is better, which student has participated more in the Wikimedia community, which student has better technical skills, and which student has better communication skills. Therefore, every applicant should watch out for other students who are making very similar proposals, and Gregory and I have aimed to specifically alert students who are facing conflicts. Those students should either choose to strive to make their applications regarding that topic the best it can be, or one of them should choose a different topic.
We will find out how many slots Google allots us by April 20th.
Oy - I love GSOC but the whole competition part makes me sad. :)
On balance I like the competition. The scarcity of slots does spur better proposals and better preparation, and it's better that students learn the importance of preparation and community engagement (possibly by being rejected) as early in life as possible. :)
Conflicting proposals (we will almost certainly only choose one of these):
Editor rewards/ "Who's been awesome": https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Shubh09/gsoc and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Erangamapa/mygsoc
I see there's another editor rewards/who's been awesome proposal: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Timothyandrew/GSOC_2012_Proposal
Timothy, you have about five hours left to submit your proposal through Google Melange http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 -- if you don't, you're ineligible to participate in our GSoC program this year.
On 05/04/12 19:49, Gregory Varnum wrote: ...
Oy - I love GSOC but the whole competition part makes me sad. :)
Yes, and I think you are actually right with your observation (in a way). Sumana has pointed out that there are no topic conflicts for SMW-applications so far, but there are resource conflicts on other levels: we will have to limit the number of projects to ensure that there are enough dedicated mentors for each project. So even different projects can be mutually exclusive. This is still a bit sad, but I would rather do this than have insufficient guidance for the students.
Markus
On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:41 AM, Markus Krötzschmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote:
On 04/04/12 06:01, Gregory Varnum wrote:
I'll admit - I'm intrigued by the notion of carbon footprint reduction via software enhancements.. :)
I appreciate that you've concisely provided background on the what and how. I'm curious if you can expand a tad more on the why. To many the notion of energy conservation is very familiar - but in all fairness - I've suggested to others that they not assume everyone will know as much as they do - so a bit more info there wouldn't hurt.
The title "Green SMW" should not lead to wrong expectations. The goal of this project is to address a number of long-standing performance issues in various components. The tasks are based on concrete problem reports we got from various SMW users. Is this what you mean with the "why"? The goal is to take a more general perspective in "Green SMW" and to not optimize for one use-case only, but to address known architectural weaknesses that are causing these issues.
You've been in IRC actively - so you're aware of that resource.
Same comment to SMW folks as Flickr folks - contemplate each other's proposals and be mindful of any overlap and the stated criteria like quality of apps, etc. Might not be a bad idea to see what others are proposing. :)
I am not sure I know what you are referring to. I don't see Flickr-related projects that are similar to this project. We should of course be careful with overlaps, but I cannot see any issue there right now. Or maybe you meant something else?
Markus
On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, nischay nahatanischayn22@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am participating in GSOC'12 with my proposal for Green SMW [1]. This proposal is about reducing the carbon footprint of SMW , in other words it will enhance the performance of SMW significantly. All the details are on [1], suggestions to improve or comments are most welcome.
I have also been contributing to MW with my new Extension:AllTimeZones [2], comments to that are welcomed as well. My other contributions to MW are listed here [3].
[1]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22/Gsoc [2]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AllTimeZones [3]www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nischayn22
-- With Regards
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