As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC.
Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus specifically on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting community. Shared hosting mediawiki users are currently underrepresented in the greater mediawiki community. We rarely run into them in phabricator, on gerrit or on the mailing lists. Which means that people often have to think on their behalf about their use cases and issues, instead of getting direct input.
There must be practical ways to bring those thousands of mediawiki users back into the fold, so to speak. Hopefully we can come up with interesting ideas to achieve that.
And if you happen to be a shared hosting user, by all means, please join this IRC office hour :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
Hi Gilles,
Thanks for leading this! My reading of your agenda leads me to believe that this is intended as a "problem solving" meeting, as described in User:RobLa-WMF/Meetings#Taxonomy. To quote that article:
*Problem-solving* - Discuss a problem that we don’t know how to solve.
"Conversation for possibility" as described by 1999 article http://www.fastcompany.com/36861/you-have-start-meeting
- Successful outcome: an idea or a reasonably complete list of ideas
for how to solve the problem
- Successful outcome: consensus on the priority about the importance
of solving this problem (or consensus that it isn’t a problem after all)
- Non-goal: a decision for how to solve the problem
Does that seem like an accurate characterization for what you have planned on Thursday? I recommend structuring the conversation (and figure out action items) to achieve your imagined goal.
Rob
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Gilles Dubuc gilles@wikimedia.org wrote:
As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC.
Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus specifically on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting community. Shared hosting mediawiki users are currently underrepresented in the greater mediawiki community. We rarely run into them in phabricator, on gerrit or on the mailing lists. Which means that people often have to think on their behalf about their use cases and issues, instead of getting direct input.
There must be practical ways to bring those thousands of mediawiki users back into the fold, so to speak. Hopefully we can come up with interesting ideas to achieve that.
And if you happen to be a shared hosting user, by all means, please join this IRC office hour :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
Engineering mailing list Engineering@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/engineering
Yes, this is exactly what I had in mind.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Gilles,
Thanks for leading this! My reading of your agenda leads me to believe that this is intended as a "problem solving" meeting, as described in User:RobLa-WMF/Meetings#Taxonomy. To quote that article:
*Problem-solving* - Discuss a problem that we don’t know how to solve.
"Conversation for possibility" as described by 1999 article http://www.fastcompany.com/36861/you-have-start-meeting
- Successful outcome: an idea or a reasonably complete list of ideas
for how to solve the problem
- Successful outcome: consensus on the priority about the importance
of solving this problem (or consensus that it isn’t a problem after all)
- Non-goal: a decision for how to solve the problem
Does that seem like an accurate characterization for what you have planned on Thursday? I recommend structuring the conversation (and figure out action items) to achieve your imagined goal.
Rob
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Gilles Dubuc gilles@wikimedia.org wrote:
As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC.
Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus specifically on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting community. Shared hosting mediawiki users are currently underrepresented in the greater mediawiki community. We rarely run into them in phabricator, on gerrit or on the mailing lists. Which means that people often have to think on their behalf about their use cases and issues, instead of getting direct input.
There must be practical ways to bring those thousands of mediawiki users back into the fold, so to speak. Hopefully we can come up with interesting ideas to achieve that.
And if you happen to be a shared hosting user, by all means, please join this IRC office hour :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
Engineering mailing list Engineering@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/engineering
On 11/16/2015 02:59 PM, Gilles Dubuc wrote:
As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC.
You might also want to send these messages to mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org . It seems likely that some shared hosting users are only signed up for that. Maybe even mediawiki-announce@lists.wikimedia.org , but the latter risks being spammy.
Matt Flaschen
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org