On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:56:01AM +0200, Lars Aronsson wrote:

The company Demis in the Netherlands sells software for a map server and also runs a demo on their own site. The map data for this demo have been collected from public domain sources, and the company doesn't claim any copyright for the generated maps. The maps are not the very best, but good enough for many purposes. Some maps of this origin are already at Wikimedia Commons, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Map-Hrusica-in-contex--raw.png and have been used for further processing, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationArno.PNG

I developed a simple tool that makes it easier to find the right map, and then I uploaded two dozens of them to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain_maps_from_demis.nl

However, the people at Demis are concerned about a "Slashdot effect" that might overburden their map server if everybody starts to use this tool. They would prefer if somebody could buy the Demis software and run their own server. Unfortunately, the map server only runs on Microsoft Windows.

Does anybody have a Demis server running already, that I can use for my tool? There are many WMS-compliant servers out there, but most have very fuzzy or complicated copyright restrictions.

Hi Lars,

I'm currently setting up a mapserver ( http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/ ) based WMS infrastructure, integrating it into MediaWiki's GIS extension. The idea is to remove almost all of those "City in country" images like in http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_am_Main and generate those automatically from a <geo> tag within the article:

<geo> 50 07 N 8 41 E city inhabitants: 650000 altitude: 112m show map </geo>

(Syntax will probably change)

If you click the auto-generated map, you will be sent to a mapbender ( http://www.mapbender.org/ ) based map application. There you can scroll around, explore the world. If you click on a city, the wikipedia article for that city will be shown. If you zoom in, smaller towns or even placemarks within towns will show up.

Currently I use NASA's blue marble for fancy background and CIA's political borders for more boring background. Demis' hillshading would be a real improvement to this.

Data is stored in PostGIS, since it supports geospatial indices.

Future plans: - On large scale maps, show also the locations of images from commons (if geotagged) - provide an interface to the community to also edit rivers, streets, etc CIA data on these is quite crappy. - collaboration with other data-generating GIS projects, e.g. with the people that generate city maps from GPS tracks.

A first screenshot is available at http://jeluf.mormo.org/~jf/wikimaps3.pdf (Yes, there are UTF-8 issues to solve. I know already how to do it. Yes, I need help of a web designer. This still looks like an engineer-made web page)

Tasks done: * Compile two dozens of tools and libraries * Store GIS data from wiki articles * Show GIS data in mapbender * autogenerate maps from coordinates in wikipages * Integration of various sources for layers (Blue Marble, CIA data, some others)

Open tasks: * make cities clickable (50% done, needs some more filtering) * make extent of autogenerated maps nicer. E.g. for "city in Germany", show all of Germany. * Web interface design. Not neccessarily monobook... * Package everything, documentation

Time schedule: * First public testbed in 2 weeks. * Release in 2 months.

Regards,

JeLuF

I think the UMN Mapserver (http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu ) would be a good choice in terms of quality and copyright (its open source). Have a look on the sample page (http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/gallery.html) .

"Lars Aronsson" lars@aronsson.se schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0508310333360.26356@sara.aronsson.se...

The company Demis in the Netherlands sells software for a map server and also runs a demo on their own site. The map data for this demo have been collected from public domain sources, and the company doesn't claim any copyright for the generated maps. The maps are not the very best, but good enough for many purposes. Some maps of this origin are already at Wikimedia Commons, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Map-Hrusica-in-contex--raw.png and have been used for further processing, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationArno.PNG

I developed a simple tool that makes it easier to find the right map, and then I uploaded two dozens of them to

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain_maps_from_demis.nl

However, the people at Demis are concerned about a "Slashdot effect" that might overburden their map server if everybody starts to use this tool. They would prefer if somebody could buy the Demis software and run their own server. Unfortunately, the map server only runs on Microsoft Windows.

Does anybody have a Demis server running already, that I can use for my tool? There are many WMS-compliant servers out there, but most have very fuzzy or complicated copyright restrictions.

-- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se