Greetings.
Can anyone provide a status update regarding flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?
In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp. :)
On 8/31/09 4:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Greetings.
Can anyone provide a status update regarding flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?
In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp. :)
All templates referenced from the pages were included in the export/import, unless of course something messed up. :)
-- brion
Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but simple shouldn't be locked into some sort of 'testing' agreement with enwp unless there is some sort of consensus on both sites, and I have little doubt that consensus will not exist for such an action.
As I say, perhaps I am misunderstanding.
- Chris
2009/8/31 Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com
Greetings.
Can anyone provide a status update regarding flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?
In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp. :)
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Chris Downasenine@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but simple shouldn't be locked into some sort of 'testing' agreement with enwp unless there is some sort of consensus on both sites, and I have little doubt that consensus will not exist for such an action.
As I say, perhaps I am misunderstanding.
You're misunderstanding. I was suggesting making a copy, thus "import", of simple instead of a partial copy of English. For testing a copy of some wiki is required. I'm personally quite happy testing with a language I can't understand (avoids getting distracted reading the text!) but many find it desirable to test with a language they can. Enwp itself is too big for a reasonable test import, but simple is right-sized.
Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've only seen trashed pages like this: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've only seen trashed pages like this: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css styles. The import was only for the articles, Someone needs to go in and import the templates listed on [[Special:WantedTemplates]] [1] and possibly the [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] and [[Mediawiki:Monobook]] from the en.wikipedia[2][3].
-Peachey
[1]. http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WantedTempla... [2]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [3]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:03 AM, K. Peacheyp858snake@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've only seen trashed pages like this: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css styles. The import was only for the articles, Someone needs to go in and import the templates listed on [[Special:WantedTemplates]] [1] and possibly the [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] and [[Mediawiki:Monobook]] from the en.wikipedia[2][3].
Speaking of which, the export interface could really benefit from an option to include CSS and JS customizations during export.
-Robert Rohde
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:03 AM, K. Peacheyp858snake@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've only seen trashed pages like this: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css
[snip]
Ummmmm... Read the thread plz. :)
And it's different now than it was last night, last night the templates weren't there yet and it looked like a car hit it. :)
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
And it's different now than it was last night, last night the templates weren't there yet and it looked like a car hit it. :)
You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to do absurd things like fixing them :)
It was me who fixed it, by importing two 'important' templates: {{!!}}, content || and {{1x}}, content {{{1}}}
So yes, "something messed up" on the export/import.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, PlatonidesPlatonides@gmail.com wrote:
You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to do absurd things like fixing them :)
I was going to fix some up, but import is restricted and i was too lazy to do copy/paste imports.
-Peachey
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, K. Peacheyp858snake@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, PlatonidesPlatonides@gmail.com wrote:
You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to do absurd things like fixing them :)
I was going to fix some up, but import is restricted and i was too lazy to do copy/paste imports.
Ehhh. It don't know that it makes sense to spend effort manually fixing pages on a test project. If the import procedure is not working right it should be improved...
In any case, I'm sorry for the tangent. The main intent of my post was to determine the current status:
Is the import finished? When will the configuration changes for flagged protection be turned on?
We should support shadow wiki copies of mediawiki. Something like copying the page table and have mediawiki look at the revision table of the original wiki when needed. Obviously, the labs login should have read-only access to the production wiki (it's labs, after all) except perhaps to the user table which could be shared. It'd made easier doing such testings.
On 9/1/09 6:56 AM, Platonides wrote:
We should support shadow wiki copies of mediawiki. Something like copying the page table and have mediawiki look at the revision table of the original wiki when needed. Obviously, the labs login should have read-only access to the production wiki (it's labs, after all) except perhaps to the user table which could be shared. It'd made easier doing such testings.
That would be pretty spiffy. Probably not absurdly difficult to implement for at least these limited purposes (fetch page from other database if it's not here locally), and we have related code already in place for at least:
* remote image pages * mediawiki message pages
-- brion
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Brion wrote:
Probably not absurdly difficult to implement for at least these limited purposes (fetch page from other database if it's not here locally), and we have related code already in place for at least:
- remote image pages
- mediawiki message pages
-- brion
Wouldn't that essentially be the same thing as [1] and [2]? I thought those things *were* hard to do (see [3]), specifically looking up the page on the remote wiki.
- -Mike
[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12306 [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9890
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