Hello,
I haven't heard much about this project lately, is it still ongoing?
Thanks, Travis
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Travis Derouin wrote:
Hello,
I haven't heard much about this project lately, is it still ongoing?
Yes, David McCabe's been working on bringing this back up to speed over the last few weeks.
He's got a working branch in SVN: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/liquidthreads/
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
Cool, that sounds good.
Is there any place where's documenting his progress, or providing updates/discussion on the project? None of the old URLs for the project seemed to be maintained.
On 8/13/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
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Travis Derouin wrote:
Hello,
I haven't heard much about this project lately, is it still ongoing?
Yes, David McCabe's been working on bringing this back up to speed over the last few weeks.
He's got a working branch in SVN: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/liquidthreads/
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
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On 8/14/07, Travis Derouin travis@wikihow.com wrote:
Is there any place where's documenting his progress, or providing updates/discussion on the project? None of the old URLs for the project seemed to be maintained.
http://wikixp.org/lqt/index.php/Main_Page has a progress update & list of known issues, it should be pretty up to date.
Erik Moeller-4 wrote:
On 8/14/07, Travis Derouin travis@wikihow.com wrote:
Is there any place where's documenting his progress, or providing updates/discussion on the project? None of the old URLs for the project seemed to be maintained.
http://wikixp.org/lqt/index.php/Main_Page has a progress update & list of known issues, it should be pretty up to date.
I have been trying that, and for some reason I cannot make any of the several threads reveal their contents.
What up with that?
On 8/14/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
I have been trying that, and for some reason I cannot make any of the several threads reveal their contents.
"Reveal their contents"?
Erik Moeller-4 wrote:
On 8/14/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
I have been trying that, and for some reason I cannot make any of the several threads reveal their contents.
"Reveal their contents"?
I added some threads, and all I can see is their headers, no sign of the body I included.
Am I doing something wrong? Is there another step?
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
I added some threads, and all I can see is their headers, no sign of the body I included.
This is one of the threads you added:
http://wikixp.org/lqt/index.php/Thread:WTFOMGBBQ%3F%3F%21%21%3F%3F_1
I can see it just fine - if you can't, perhaps there's an issue with the HTML? Which browser?
Erik Moeller-4 wrote:
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
I added some threads, and all I can see is their headers, no sign of the body I included.
This is one of the threads you added:
http://wikixp.org/lqt/index.php/Thread:WTFOMGBBQ%3F%3F%21%21%3F%3F_1
I can see it just fine - if you can't, perhaps there's an issue with the HTML? Which browser?
Aha!
FF2 sees it fine, IE7 sees nothing past the "from Talk:Main Page" rubric.
HTH HAND
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
FF2 sees it fine, IE7 sees nothing past the "from Talk:Main Page" rubric.
OK, good to know. We'll have to debug the HTML a bit. :)
The naming of threads seems very strange... I can't see much of a pattern to it at all... "Thread:XYZ 1" could be either a reply to "Thread:XYZ" or a second thread named "XYZ". Also, each post seems to be its own thread, which is rather a strange definition of "thread" (makes sense to the mathematician in me, but for the web user in me, it's very strange).
However, despite that, the implementation seems to work pretty well.
Erik Moeller wrote:
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
FF2 sees it fine, IE7 sees nothing past the "from Talk:Main Page" rubric.
OK, good to know. We'll have to debug the HTML a bit. :)
wikixp.org/lqt/monobook/main.css contains: .lqt_thread { // display: none; }
This is incorrect syntax, as CSS comments are in C syntax (/* */), not C++. Could be that IE is ignoring the // and thus honouring display: none http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#comments
PS: The page also has an id="", which is invalid XHTML.
On 8/15/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Erik Moeller wrote:
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
FF2 sees it fine, IE7 sees nothing past the "from Talk:Main Page" rubric.
OK, good to know. We'll have to debug the HTML a bit. :)
wikixp.org/lqt/monobook/main.css contains: .lqt_thread { // display: none; }
This is incorrect syntax, as CSS comments are in C syntax (/* */), not C++. Could be that IE is ignoring the // and thus honouring display: none http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#comments
Unsurprising. The correct behavior, of course, is to ignore everything up to the end of the rule, i.e., the next semicolon, and so of course standards-compliant browsers do that.
You need to run your XHTML and CSS through the W3C's validators. It's not just academic, these things really do cut out bugs.
Simetrical wrote:
On 8/15/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Erik Moeller wrote:
On 8/15/07, Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
FF2 sees it fine, IE7 sees nothing past the "from Talk:Main Page" rubric.
OK, good to know. We'll have to debug the HTML a bit. :)
wikixp.org/lqt/monobook/main.css contains: .lqt_thread { // display: none; }
This is incorrect syntax, as CSS comments are in C syntax (/* */), not C++. Could be that IE is ignoring the // and thus honouring display: none http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#comments
Unsurprising. The correct behavior, of course, is to ignore everything up to the end of the rule, i.e., the next semicolon, and so of course standards-compliant browsers do that.
You need to run your XHTML and CSS through the W3C's validators. It's not just academic, these things really do cut out bugs.
I'm not the author, they are not mine. Strangely is that the CSS validator doesn't complain on it, the new version seems to have some odd behaviour.
On 8/15/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not the author, they are not mine.
I know that. :) I was talking to David/Erik/whoever else is dealing with this project.
So, just out of curiosity, how far along is this project? We'd definitely like to add it once it's ready to wikiHow. I recall, but could be totally wrong, seeing a demo that was farther along than this one last year at Wikimania. Is that demo still available?
Travis
So, just out of curiosity, how far along is this project? We'd definitely like to add it once it's ready to wikiHow. I recall, but could be totally wrong, seeing a demo that was farther along than this one last year at Wikimania. Is that demo still available?
No, that demo sucked and was built with scotch tape.
With this version, we've upgraded to duct tape!
I just fixed this erroneous CSS, but I don't have IE here to test it. Could somebody please confirm that that fixed the problem? Thanks.
-- David McCabe
On 8/18/07, David McCabe davemccabe@gmail.com wrote:
So, just out of curiosity, how far along is this project? We'd definitely like to add it once it's ready to wikiHow. I recall, but could be totally wrong, seeing a demo that was farther along than this one last year at Wikimania. Is that demo still available?
No, that demo sucked and was built with scotch tape.
With this version, we've upgraded to duct tape!
Speaking of duct tape, until liquidthreads becomes live/default, I have a quick javascript hack to offer.
Screenshot (sorry, in German, but you get the idea;-) http://magnusmanske.de/wikipedia/Demodiskussion.png
SOurce: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Magnus_Manske/ED.js
It removes the TOC from discussion pages, replaces <h2> and the section until the next <h2> with grey bars showing the former <h2> title. It also extracts all date-like text from each section and shows it in the grey bar (so you know what date range that "thread" was). You can expand and collapse the bars to show/hide the actual thread, individually or for the whole page. You can also invert the order of the discussions (to put "newest first").
Inverted sorting can be done by default, as well as automatically expanding the newest X threads.
My 2c, Magnus
If you mean the ones with the edit sections, that is probably my fault. I was testing to see if headers cause problems. The edit section buttons don't work, because the sections don't exist.
V/r,
Ryan Lane
-----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Phil Boswell Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:50 PM To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] liquid threads?
Erik Moeller-4 wrote:
On 8/14/07, Travis Derouin travis@wikihow.com wrote:
Is there any place where's documenting his progress, or providing updates/discussion on the project? None of the old URLs for the
project
seemed to be maintained.
http://wikixp.org/lqt/index.php/Main_Page has a progress update &
list
of known issues, it should be pretty up to date.
I have been trying that, and for some reason I cannot make any of the several threads reveal their contents.
What up with that?
Phil
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