Hi all,
I would like to collect a list of dev's that want to contribute to a WYSIWYG effort for MediaWiki. Please contact me on or off list, and we can talk about the options. If you are interested please have a look that for following resources:
* Article on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor * Article on c2.com: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WysiwygWiki
Your response is appreciated,
- Urs
On Saturday 29 January 2005 20:59, Urs C Muff wrote:
WYSIWYG effort for MediaWiki. Please contact me on or off list, and we
This wouldn't be compatible with all browsers (I'm having Konqie in mind), would it?
NSK wrote:
On Saturday 29 January 2005 20:59, Urs C Muff wrote:
WYSIWYG effort for MediaWiki. Please contact me on or off list, and we
This wouldn't be compatible with all browsers (I'm having Konqie in mind), would it?
There are HTML area controls that are compatible with IE 5.5+ and Mozilla/Gecko based browser (including FireFox). One of the compatible and open source once is http://www.htmlarea.com. But that is mentioned in the original links I sent around.
- Urs
Urs C Muff umuff71@email.com writes:
I would like to collect a list of dev's that want to contribute to a WYSIWYG effort for MediaWiki.
Why do you think WYSIWYG effort is useful? The current offering already does more harm than good. Poeple adding [[weird]] [[links]] [[all]] [[the]] [[time]]...
Karl Eichwalder wrote:
Urs C Muff umuff71@email.com writes:
I would like to collect a list of dev's that want to contribute to a WYSIWYG effort for MediaWiki.
Why do you think WYSIWYG effort is useful? The current offering already does more harm than good. Poeple adding [[weird]] [[links]] [[all]] [[the]] [[time]]...
Well some people will just not be able to get comfortable with markup, even thought the markup is designed to be human friendly it is still markup. To open the application to more users a WYSIWYG editor will be required (for us), and since this is open source and we are sharing resources I would like to coordinate that effort. Of course if I'm the only one interested, I will just do it my way...
- Urs
Urs C Muff ursm@mindtouch.com writes:
Well some people will just not be able to get comfortable with markup, even thought the markup is designed to be human friendly it is still markup.
The problem is that we are using the wrong markup language. Those who are not familiar with our markup and--more important--with our structuring rules, can write plain text.
Sooner or later we will have to apply semantic tags anyway. The German team already invented a tagging schema for biographical data. Let's switch to XML now :)
Karl Eichwalder wrote:
Urs C Muff ursm@mindtouch.com writes:
Well some people will just not be able to get comfortable with markup, even thought the markup is designed to be human friendly it is still markup.
The problem is that we are using the wrong markup language. Those who are not familiar with our markup and--more important--with our structuring rules, can write plain text.
Sooner or later we will have to apply semantic tags anyway. The German team already invented a tagging schema for biographical data. Let's switch to XML now :)
Let's not go down that route with the tagging discussion that is another topic in my opinion. I'm personally quite happy with the wiki markup, but I also see a need for advanced markup for special cases. Novice computer users will not write in any markup in my opinion, that's why there is a need for a WYSIWYG editor for those people.
- Urs
On Sunday 30 January 2005 17:18, Urs C Muff wrote:
Novice computer users will not write in any markup in my opinion, that's why there is a need for a WYSIWYG editor for those people.
the interesting thing is - they do! you'd be surprised how fast reasonably intelligent people learn by imitating others.
another point: it's not a problem when novice users write plain text without any markup. there are enough other users who do know the markup and will write it for them afterwards or teach them how to do it.
btw: we don't want visual markup, we want semantic markup. personally, i do not want to clean up after people using wysiwyg editors if it looks like the kind of HTML frontpage creates..
daniel
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