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Mark A. Hershberger

3 Dec 2013 3 Dec '13

9:26 p.m.

We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Assuming there are no show-stopping bugs reported with this RC, we'll be making a release this Friday, December 6, with only the version number included here changed. Here are a list of changes made since the last RC. (Links for download follow this list.) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95952 Add ar_id and el_id sequences for PostgreSQL -- saper https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96994 Fix login with temporary password with $wgSecureLogin = true -- Alexandre Emsenhuber https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96994 Restore Signupstart and Signupend messages for account creation -- Mark A. Hershberger Full release notes: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/1.22.0rc3/RELEASE-NOTES… https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.22 ********************************************************************** Download: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.22/mediawiki-1.22.0rc3.tar.gz GPG signatures: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.22/mediawiki-core-1.22.0rc3.tar.g… http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.22/mediawiki-1.22.0rc3.tar.gz.sig Public keys: https://www.mediawiki.org/keys/keys.html

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David Gerard

3 Dec 3 Dec

9:32 p.m.

On 3 December 2013 21:26, Mark A. Hershberger <mah(a)everybody.org> wrote:

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We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

John

9:39 p.m.

VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3 December 2013 21:26, Mark A. Hershberger <mah(a)everybody.org> wrote:

We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

Here's a question: is there a set-out list of steps to enable Visual Editor in this? Or is VE not quite ready for this? Basically, what would the VE experience be for someone wanting 1.22 on their intranet? - d. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Tyler Romeo

5 Dec 5 Dec

11:43 p.m.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs

K. Peachey

6 Dec 6 Dec

2:17 a.m.

Bad idea [to package/install],… Is what I believe beta was saying Tyler. On Friday, December 6, 2013, Tyler Romeo wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John <phoenixoverride@gmail.com<javascript:;>> wrote:

VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs

Those are two separate concepts. Just because something has bugs does not make the software itself a bad idea. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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John

2:28 a.m.

Correct, I see how my words can be taken several ways. Right now VE is a very unstable, bug filled, obnoxious elephant. Given enough time, testing, and maturity it as a lot of promise. Right now its like trying to use a rocket like http://cdn.instructables.com/F9Y/2ONP/F4TLKVHS/F9Y2ONPF4TLKVHS.LARGE.jpg to land a man on the moon. I would give VE probably another 18-24 months before its really ready to be switched on as a default editor for any non-testing wiki. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM, K. Peachey <p858snake(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Bad idea [to package/install],… Is what I believe beta was saying Tyler. On Friday, December 6, 2013, Tyler Romeo wrote:

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com

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VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs

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Martijn Hoekstra

8:23 a.m.

On Dec 6, 2013 3:28 AM, "John" <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Correct, I see how my words can be taken several ways. Right now VE is a very unstable, bug filled, obnoxious elephant. Given enough time, testing, and maturity it as a lot of promise. Right now its like trying to use a rocket like http://cdn.instructables.com/F9Y/2ONP/F4TLKVHS/F9Y2ONPF4TLKVHS.LARGE.jpgto land a man on the moon. I would give VE probably another 18-24 months before its really ready to

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switched on as a default editor for any non-testing wiki.

In my estimation David is pretty capable of making an informed decision on the merits of deploying VE to his wikis.

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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM, K. Peachey <p858snake(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Bad idea [to package/install],… > > Is what I believe beta was saying Tyler. > > On Friday, December 6, 2013, Tyler Romeo wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs > > > > > > Those are two separate concepts. Just because something has bugs does

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make the software itself a bad idea. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Tyler Romeo

8:58 a.m.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Martijn Hoekstra <martijnhoekstra(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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In my estimation David is pretty capable of making an informed decision on the merits of deploying VE to his wikis.

I wouldn't make such assumptions without context. Deploying beta software in a security sensitive environment is never a good idea. It all depends on what type of wikis are being run and what is being stored on them. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science

James Forrester

3 Dec 3 Dec

9:40 p.m.

New subject: [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

On 3 December 2013 21:32, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3 December 2013 21:26, Mark A. Hershberger <mah(a)everybody.org> wrote:

We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

Sadly, not quite ready, and VE already depends on 1.23wmf3 as it is… J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

David Gerard

9:43 p.m.

New subject: [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

On 3 December 2013 21:40, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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On 3 December 2013 21:32, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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> Here's a question: is there a set-out list of steps to enable Visual > Editor in this? Or is VE not quite ready for this? > Basically, what would the VE experience be for someone wanting 1.22 on > their intranet?

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Sadly, not quite ready, and VE already depends on 1.23wmf3 as it is…

That's annoying ... I've been desperate for VE on the intranet wikis I'm responsible for. I've asked casual Wikipedia editors and they love VE. (It's people like me, editing complicated articles, who keep breaking it.) But if you say it's not ready ... - d.

James Forrester

9:51 p.m.

New subject: [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

On 3 December 2013 13:43, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3 December 2013 21:40, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 3 December 2013 21:32, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Sadly, not quite ready, and VE already depends on 1.23wmf3 as it is…

"Not ready" means "not packaged as a 1.22 stand-alone install, and won't get back-ported security fixes". If you're happy with VE as it currently operates (which is probably "good enough" for an intranet unless you have loads and loads of tables), and are happy to support VE as an in-development extension (rather than one with proper third-party support), please do go ahead. I'd be very willing to give you what support we can. J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

David Gerard

10:11 p.m.

New subject: [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

On 3 December 2013 21:51, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Like I need more gratuitous work ;-) I might give it a poke. - d.

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