Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert all Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/
Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best with Latin scripts. For those of you looking for support for Pig Latin as a language variant, try Liangent's patch instead: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/
Cheers, Kaldari
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki. It would allow out SFO developers to familiarize themselves with how language converter works, in a script they can (mostly) read and understand. It also is *almost but not quite* reversible (consider "ashway", which could correspond to both "wash" and "ash"), another property it had in common with many real script transliterations (often one script will have upper/lowercase distinctions which are not written in the other script, for example), so it is a useful test case when thinking about how visual editor (say) ought to work with variants.
So while you enjoy your igpay atinlay today, spare a thought or two for the real internationalization issues it resembles. --scott On Apr 1, 2016 11:44 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert all Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/
Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best with Latin scripts. For those of you looking for support for Pig Latin as a language variant, try Liangent's patch instead: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/
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Ryan, Rob and WikiTechans,
How can we build such "Pig Latin" language innovation potential into a wiki UNIVERSAL TRANSLATOR - e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - and in all 7,097 + languages - in http://www.ethnologue.com/world - and also re 7943 entries+ in Glottolog for languages - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - but newly in MediaWiki WUaS - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/WUaS_En_Wiki/index.php?title=Languages - which you greatly helped to install on Jan 6, 2016, Ryan! Thank you! (This languages' page was formerly http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages) And how can we build this now also with Wikidata in 300 Wikipedia languages (and also building on Content Translation and Google Translate)?
Thanks too to WMF's Rob Lanphier for beginning a new #WorldUnivandSch IRC channel in the Wikidata office hour last Wednesday! WUaS will plan to hold office hours at 3pm PT to begin (just after the Wednesday at 2pm PT Wikidata office hour in #wikimedia-office). Unfortunately this Wednesday I won't be able to attend because I'll be at a Stanford Law China Guiding Cases Project and re the China Law School at World University and School - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/China_Law_School_at_WUaS - planned in Mandarin and possibly other Chinese languages. CC MIT OCW is in Mandarin - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ - and CC WUaS is developing with CC MIT OCW in 7 languages+.
Rob, suggestions for good ways to develop CC WUaS MediaWiki / Wikidata in this #WorldUnivandSch IRC chat channel beyond the two questions I posted on Wednesday when you began this momentous channel, which questions people will also find here - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/03/cyclamen-questions-posed-to-wikime... ? Would you be able please to keep an eye on this #WorldUnivandSch IRC chat channel at times and re Wikimedia developers? Thank you!
Best, Scott
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:08 AM, C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org wrote:
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki. It would allow out SFO developers to familiarize themselves with how language converter works, in a script they can (mostly) read and understand. It also is *almost but not quite* reversible (consider "ashway", which could correspond to both "wash" and "ash"), another property it had in common with many real script transliterations (often one script will have upper/lowercase distinctions which are not written in the other script, for example), so it is a useful test case when thinking about how visual editor (say) ought to work with variants.
So while you enjoy your igpay atinlay today, spare a thought or two for the real internationalization issues it resembles. --scott On Apr 1, 2016 11:44 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert
all
Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/
Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best
with
Latin scripts. For those of you looking for support for Pig Latin as a language variant, try Liangent's patch instead: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/
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Am 01.04.2016 um 19:08 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki.
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just be a fun easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for development and testing.
-- daniel
Yes, plase! (I shall add the German semi-equivalent "Hühnersprache" [1] as soon as I am able) Purodha
[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spielsprache#H.C3.BChnersprache
On 05.04.2016 16:00, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
Am 01.04.2016 um 19:08 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki.
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just be a fun easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for development and testing.
-- daniel
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We just had April fools. Please don't. A single test variant is fine, but we don't need more.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Purodha Blissenbach <purodha@blissenbach.org
wrote:
Yes, plase! (I shall add the German semi-equivalent "Hühnersprache" [1] as soon as I am able) Purodha
[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spielsprache#H.C3.BChnersprache
On 05.04.2016 16:00, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
Am 01.04.2016 um 19:08 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki.
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just be a fun easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for development and testing.
-- daniel
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Am 05.04.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Siebrand Mazeland:
We just had April fools. Please don't. A single test variant is fine, but we don't need more.
I realize that this was probably a joke. But i do think it would be useful. I'd be fine with making this an extension though, instead of baking it into core. Not sure it's possible right now for an extension to add a variant, though. Could be in core and be disabled per default.
As to having multiple "joke languages"... Not sure. Doesn't hurt if they are disabled, but perhaps one per script is enough.
Hi!
We just had April fools. Please don't. A single test variant is fine, but we don't need more.
I think it would be nice to have a variant such as Pig Latin. Right now most variants that we have are in languages most people don't understand, so it's kind of hard to test some stuff. Pig Latin has the following advantages:
- (nearly) everybody knows what it is and can read it if they can read English - it is easy to see if text is in Pig Latin or English - it is not just random messing up text but has specific rules - no additional requirements for keyboard, fonts, editors, etc. - it is funny to look at - and we all could use occasional comic relief :)
I'm not sure about production wiki but at least having it in development/test/beta would be nice I think - e.g. as vagrant role or something like that maybe?
+1. Where can I +2 this?
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de wrote:
Am 01.04.2016 um 19:08 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki.
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just be a fun easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for development and testing.
-- daniel
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On 2016-04-05 17:37, Jon Robson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de
wrote:
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few
years ago, but
which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just
be a fun
easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for
development
and testing.
+1. Where can I +2 this?
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/
I'm afraid it got stuck because enabling LanguageConverter for English caused a number of parser tests to immediately fail, even if no conversion was being done. :(
Am 05.04.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Bartosz Dziewoński:
On 2016-04-05 17:37, Jon Robson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de wrote:
Yes, please! I have been using a patch that Liangent wrote a few years ago, but which never got merged, for exactly this purpose. Piglatin may just be a fun easter egg for a production site, but it's a very useful tool for development and testing.
+1. Where can I +2 this?
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/
I'm afraid it got stuck because enabling LanguageConverter for English caused a number of parser tests to immediately fail, even if no conversion was being done. :(
So let's fix the tests :)
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