Dear all,
The improvements to the page editing interface by the experience team are great. I especially like the new insert link.
I was wondering, whether it is possible to have something similar for templates, maybe with following functionalities:
- suggestions for templates are listed while typing - short descriptions from the template page are shown - when a template is chosen, the user is asked for its parameters
With that the users would not need to remember all templates, their syntax to use, and their number of parameters.
Does anyone know whether that exists already or is planned? If not, how could that be implemented?
Regards,
Benedikt
-- Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) Institute of Applied Informatics and Formal Description Methods (AIFB)
Benedikt Kämpgen Research Associate
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Hello,
is my question maybe not well placed in here? I thought it to be rather too technical oriented for MediaWiki-l.
Please, give me a hint... :-)
Regards
Benedikt
-- Karlsruher Institut für Technologie (KIT) Institut für Angewandte Informatik und Formale Beschreibungsverfahren (AIFB)
Benedikt Kämpgen Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter
Kaiserstraße 12 Gebäude 11.40 76131 Karlsruhe
Telefon: +49 721 608-7946 Fax: +49 721 608-6580 E-Mail: benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu Web: http://www.kit.edu/ KIT - Universität des Landes Baden-Württemberg und nationales Forschungszentrum in der Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft
-----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Benedikt Kaempgen Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:17 AM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: [Wikitech-l] Experience Team - Insert Template
Dear all,
The improvements to the page editing interface by the experience team are great. I especially like the new insert link.
I was wondering, whether it is possible to have something similar for templates, maybe with following functionalities:
- suggestions for templates are listed while typing - short descriptions from the template page are shown - when a template is chosen, the user is asked for its parameters
With that the users would not need to remember all templates, their syntax to use, and their number of parameters.
Does anyone know whether that exists already or is planned? If not, how could that be implemented?
Regards,
Benedikt
-- Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) Institute of Applied Informatics and Formal Description Methods (AIFB)
Benedikt Kämpgen Research Associate
Kaiserstraße 12 Building 11.40 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany
Phone: +49 721 608-7946 Fax: +49 721 608-6580 Email: benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu Web: http://www.kit.edu/
KIT - University of the State of Baden-Wuerttemberg and National Research Center of the Helmholtz Association
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Benedikt Kaempgen benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu wrote:
Hello,
is my question maybe not well placed in here? I thought it to be rather too technical oriented for MediaWiki-l.
Please, give me a hint... :-)
As far as I know, the usability team is hoping to do something like this at some point in the indefinite future, but since it would be complicated, they're working on easier things first. I can't say for sure, though.
Correct. The features mentioned in this thread are rather complex, so we're starting by first hiding the template code into Template Capsules. The idea behind Template Capsules is to hide the template code for the benefit of the novice editor. These capsules may then be expanded to reveal the wikitext for the template. Mock-ups can be viewed here [1]. You may also visit Sandox [2] to view a prototype of the feature.
We included an early version of Template Capsules as part of the last Usability Study [3] to test the basic concept of hiding/expanding the template code. We're incorporating the feedback we got from this study into the development of this feature.
Once we get hiding/collapsing working, we'll start looking at other feature to make template editing easier.
Please let us know what you think of what we have so far -- we've been using the following talk page for feedback: [4].
Howie
[1] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Citron_Designs [2] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/sandbox.6/Main_Page [3] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability,_Experience,_and_Evaluation_St... [4] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Template_feedback
On 7/27/10 7:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Benedikt Kaempgen benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu wrote:
Hello,
is my question maybe not well placed in here? I thought it to be rather too technical oriented for MediaWiki-l.
Please, give me a hint... :-)
As far as I know, the usability team is hoping to do something like this at some point in the indefinite future, but since it would be complicated, they're working on easier things first. I can't say for sure, though.
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Hi,
Thanks for the detailed answer.
I have put some feedback on [1]. Unfortunately, on the sandbox page [2] the wizard did not work. I think, it might already provide some functionalities that I was suggesting. Could anyone point me to some page where it is working properly on Firefox 3.6.8 Windows 7? Then I can try it out and give more feedback.
Keep up your good work.
Benedikt
[1] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Template_feedback#General_Feedback_... [2] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/sandbox.6/Main_Page
-- Karlsruher Institut für Technologie (KIT) Institut für Angewandte Informatik und Formale Beschreibungsverfahren (AIFB)
Benedikt Kämpgen Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter
Kaiserstraße 12 Gebäude 11.40 76131 Karlsruhe
Telefon: +49 721 608-7946 Fax: +49 721 608-6580 E-Mail: benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu Web: http://www.kit.edu/ KIT - Universität des Landes Baden-Württemberg und nationales Forschungszentrum in der Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft
-----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Howie Fung Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:43 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Experience Team - Insert Template
Correct. The features mentioned in this thread are rather complex, so we're starting by first hiding the template code into Template Capsules. The idea behind Template Capsules is to hide the template code for the benefit of the novice editor. These capsules may then be expanded to reveal the wikitext for the template. Mock-ups can be viewed here [1]. You may also visit Sandox [2] to view a prototype of the feature.
We included an early version of Template Capsules as part of the last Usability Study [3] to test the basic concept of hiding/expanding the template code. We're incorporating the feedback we got from this study into the development of this feature.
Once we get hiding/collapsing working, we'll start looking at other feature to make template editing easier.
Please let us know what you think of what we have so far -- we've been using the following talk page for feedback: [4].
Howie
[1] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Citron_Designs [2] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/sandbox.6/Main_Page [3] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability,_Experience,_and_Evaluation_St... [4] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Template_feedback
On 7/27/10 7:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Benedikt Kaempgen benedikt.kaempgen@kit.edu wrote:
Hello,
is my question maybe not well placed in here? I thought it to be rather too technical oriented for MediaWiki-l.
Please, give me a hint... :-)
As far as I know, the usability team is hoping to do something like this at some point in the indefinite future, but since it would be complicated, they're working on easier things first. I can't say for sure, though.
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