Hi!
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics, allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by the Community Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.
For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.
Thanks!
Marcel Ruiz Forns, 22/02/19 21:01:
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool.
This is sad, for sure. As someone who managed to patch and run the original WikiStats scripts despite a limited knowledge of Perl, I think it would have been more reasonable than often assumed to continue their maintenance. However it's clear that we're well past the time when such a decision might have been possible, and it's good to see a growing interest in feature parity for the new WikiStats.
I think the purposes of this list can be served by the analytics list without too much sweat.
Federico
Federico, we're talking about *Wikimetrics*, which is a very different project intended to run stats on groups of users (cohorts) for a specific set of standard metrics. This tool was mostly developed for and used by grantmaking and program teams at WMF and affiliates around the world, but its use is too low to justify the effort it would take to maintain it. Better tools are taking its place, and we're working on some of the infrastructure will support those better tools.
I think you may have been talking about *Wikistats*, which I agree would've been very nice to keep maintaining. I think ultimately we don't have too many of the skills that made Erik successful at what he did. Perl was just one of them, and not a major part in my opinion. If I'm wrong and you're indeed talking about Wikimetrics, do please elaborate as we're just starting to make this decision.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 5:21 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Marcel Ruiz Forns, 22/02/19 21:01:
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool.
This is sad, for sure. As someone who managed to patch and run the original WikiStats scripts despite a limited knowledge of Perl, I think it would have been more reasonable than often assumed to continue their maintenance. However it's clear that we're well past the time when such a decision might have been possible, and it's good to see a growing interest in feature parity for the new WikiStats.
I think the purposes of this list can be served by the analytics list without too much sweat.
Federico
Wikimetrics mailing list Wikimetrics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimetrics
This is done now. http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.
In short we will close this mailing list. For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835.
Cheers!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics, allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by the Community Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.
For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.
Thanks!
-- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
Wikimetrics users considering Event Metrics as a replacement will want to know that we are on the verge of releasing some very significant new features to Event Metrics. These changes should be coming within the next few weeks. You can read about the new capabilities under construction on the project page [1].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Event_Metrics#Status_and_sche... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Event_Metrics#Status_and_schedule
Yours, Joe Matazzoni Product Manager, Collaboration Team Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco
On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is done now. http://metrics.wmflabs.org http://metrics.wmflabs.org/ points now to the Event Metrics tool.
In short we will close this mailing list. For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
Cheers!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns <mforns@wikimedia.org mailto:mforns@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi!
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics, allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by the Community Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.
For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.
Thanks!
-- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
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Use of 'this' was confusing since I read it like 'what??????? Wikitech-l is closing?????' to me. (I'm only subscribed to wikitech-l)
So... since I don't think wikitech-l is closing anytime in the near future, the wikimetrics one is the one being closed, just in case anyone is confused like me xD.
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2019. 3. 27. 03:20, Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org 작성:
This is done now. http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.
In short we will close this mailing list. For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835.
Cheers!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics, allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by the Community Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.
For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.
Thanks!
-- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi Yongmin,
indeed, only Wikimetrics list is going to be closed. Wikitech-l remains the same. Thank you for spotting this mistake, and sorry for the confusion!
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:10 PM Yongmin H. via Wikitech-l < wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
Use of 'this' was confusing since I read it like 'what??????? Wikitech-l is closing?????' to me. (I'm only subscribed to wikitech-l)
So... since I don't think wikitech-l is closing anytime in the near future, the wikimetrics one is the one being closed, just in case anyone is confused like me xD.
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- 03:20, Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org 작성:
This is done now. http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.
In short we will close this mailing list. For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835.
Cheers!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like
Wikimetrics,
allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been
running
for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by
the Community
Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.
For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.
Thanks!
-- *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)* Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
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