Frank v Waveren a écrit :
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:38:49AM +0100, Grégoire Colbert wrote:
$alh = trim( $_SERVER["HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE"] );
This would be a horrible abuse of HTTP. You should only present the same content in different languages based on the Accept-Language field, never to different content. Having links point to different things based on browser settings would be a nightmare.
The fact that www.wikipedia.com does not care about the visitor's language does not seem an "horrible abuse" to you? Only HTTP matters? If so, you've got a strange vision of what a website is made for.
Grégoire
Grégoire Colbert wrote in gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical:
Frank v Waveren a écrit :
This would be a horrible abuse of HTTP. You should only present the same content in different languages based on the Accept-Language field, never to different content. Having links point to different things based on browser settings would be a nightmare.
The fact that www.wikipedia.com does not care about the visitor's language does not seem an "horrible abuse" to you? Only HTTP matters? If so, you've got a strange vision of what a website is made for.
The issue is not that the portal should "not care" about the user's language, but rather that different content should not be presented based on the language; the same content should be presented in different languages.
Since en.wikipedia.org and de.wikipedia.org do not have the same content, it would not make sense to automatically redirect a user to either one based on their preferred language. What should be done is, for example, to highlight the Wikipedia(s) that exist in the user's language on the portal page, and to display the portal's interface in their preferred language.
Grégoire
Kate.
Could the new wikipedia.org page incorporate the "Go" and "Search" function with radio (or check boxes) to select the language(s)?
Paul Youlten
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Turner" kate.turner@gmail.com To: wikitech-l@wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Why www.wikipedia.org => en.wikipedia.org ?
Grégoire Colbert wrote in gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical:
Frank v Waveren a écrit :
This would be a horrible abuse of HTTP. You should only present the same content in different languages based on the Accept-Language field, never to different content. Having links point to different things based on browser settings would be a nightmare.
The fact that www.wikipedia.com does not care about the visitor's language does not seem an "horrible abuse" to you? Only HTTP matters? If so, you've got a strange vision of what a website is made for.
The issue is not that the portal should "not care" about the user's language, but rather that different content should not be presented based on the language; the same content should be presented in different languages.
Since en.wikipedia.org and de.wikipedia.org do not have the same content, it would not make sense to automatically redirect a user to either one based on their preferred language. What should be done is, for example, to highlight the Wikipedia(s) that exist in the user's language on the portal page, and to display the portal's interface in their preferred language.
Grégoire
Kate.
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I'm working right now on it, expect something soon...
Alfio
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Paul Youlten wrote:
Could the new wikipedia.org page incorporate the "Go" and "Search" function with radio (or check boxes) to select the language(s)?
Paul Youlten
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Turner" kate.turner@gmail.com To: wikitech-l@wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Why www.wikipedia.org => en.wikipedia.org ?
Grégoire Colbert wrote in gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical:
Frank v Waveren a écrit :
This would be a horrible abuse of HTTP. You should only present the same content in different languages based on the Accept-Language field, never to different content. Having links point to different things based on browser settings would be a nightmare.
The fact that www.wikipedia.com does not care about the visitor's language does not seem an "horrible abuse" to you? Only HTTP matters? If so, you've got a strange vision of what a website is made for.
The issue is not that the portal should "not care" about the user's language, but rather that different content should not be presented based on the language; the same content should be presented in different languages.
Since en.wikipedia.org and de.wikipedia.org do not have the same content, it would not make sense to automatically redirect a user to either one based on their preferred language. What should be done is, for example, to highlight the Wikipedia(s) that exist in the user's language on the portal page, and to display the portal's interface in their preferred language.
Grégoire
Kate.
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