The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
On 06/09/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
The Java player didn't actually work for me, but the idea is way cool ;-)
Does Cortado work well enough under free software JVMs to satisfy the obsessives?
- d.
On 9/5/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The Java player didn't actually work for me, but the idea is way cool ;-)
Does Cortado work well enough under free software JVMs to satisfy the obsessives?
Cortado works under GCJ. Although because GCJ doesn't have enough of a security model to be used for web applets, so while this software works in GCJ you should never use GCJ to run web applets. If anyone makes a complaint along these lines of reasons, call me in and I'll be glad to defend it.
In any case, Tim's extension isn't cortado only: It has the same general compatibility behavior as hack of mine we've used for the last few months. Cortado is only one of several supported playback techniques. If you don't want to install Java, you can also install the VLC plugin, or run Opera 9.5 beta (which supports the HTML5 video tag).
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On 9/5/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The Java player didn't actually work for me, but the idea is way cool ;-)
Does Cortado work well enough under free software JVMs to satisfy the obsessives?
Cortado works under GCJ. Although because GCJ doesn't have enough of a security model to be used for web applets, so while this software works in GCJ you should never use GCJ to run web applets. If anyone makes a complaint along these lines of reasons, call me in and I'll be glad to defend it.
In any case, Tim's extension isn't cortado only: It has the same general compatibility behavior as hack of mine we've used for the last few months. Cortado is only one of several supported playback techniques. If you don't want to install Java, you can also install the VLC plugin, or run Opera 9.5 beta (which supports the HTML5 video tag).
XiphQT is probably a better choice than Opera 9.5 beta, especially if you have QuickTime installed and working already. I tried the Opera alpha video build (9.5 is not beta yet), and found it to be crashy and incomplete. VLC is probably the best choice for open source purists.
-- Tim Starling
On 9/6/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
In any case, Tim's extension isn't cortado only: It has the same general compatibility behavior as hack of mine we've used for the last few months. Cortado is only one of several supported playback techniques. If you don't want to install Java, you can also install the VLC plugin, or run Opera 9.5 beta (which supports the HTML5 video tag).
Great work! Gmaxwell's Jorbis player used to preselect QuickTime for me, while this player selects VLC for me. In my experience QT used to be a little smoother than VLC. Is there any chance that this will be supported? Or is it too unfree? :)
Bryan
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Bryan Tong Minh wrote:
On 9/6/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
In any case, Tim's extension isn't cortado only: It has the same general compatibility behavior as hack of mine we've used for the last few months. Cortado is only one of several supported playback techniques. If you don't want to install Java, you can also install the VLC plugin, or run Opera 9.5 beta (which supports the HTML5 video tag).
Great work! Gmaxwell's Jorbis player used to preselect QuickTime for me, while this player selects VLC for me. In my experience QT used to be a little smoother than VLC. Is there any chance that this will be supported? Or is it too unfree? :)
Greg's player did not detect QuickTime explicitly, it handled it as a generic Ogg plugin. I added QuickTime detection, and put it in a preference order after VLC, because it's not free software, and we like to support free software.
Note that when you choose a player, it saves a cookie with your selection, and then uses that choice from then on. The expiry time might need some tweaking though, I think at the moment it expires at the end of the session.
-- Tim Starling
On 06/09/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
The Java player didn't actually work for me, but the idea is way cool ;-)
I'd appreciate it if you could tell me (on or off list) exactly what didn't work about it.
Um, it didn't seem to do much. Clicked a few times, a Java thing finally came up. Stuck at "Buffering 21%". This is on Ubuntu Gutsy, which I think uses Sun Java 5, inside Firefox 2.0.0.6.
- d.
On 06/09/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
The Java player didn't actually work for me, but the idea is way cool ;-)
I'd appreciate it if you could tell me (on or off list) exactly what didn't work about it.
And testing on Windows XP at work, it worked like a charm in Firefox 2.0.0.6 (Sun Java 1.5.0_09-b03) and SeaMonkey 1.1.4 (same Java).
On Firefox, the initial startup seemed to take subjective ages after clicking the "play" button - about five seconds while Java was loading during which nothing was happening on the screen and I had the urge to click the "play" button repeatedly until something did. A little warning, or text saying "Loading Java ..." ?
- d.
On 06/09/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/09/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
And testing on Windows XP at work, it worked like a charm in Firefox
Testing in IE7, it took sixteen seconds to bring up the VLC 0.8.6a traffic-cone, I hit play on that, and ... nothing happened. (IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.060411-1541.) Is there any way to get IE to tell you precisely what handlers it's using for what formats?
- d.
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Tim Starling wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
Excellent. Worked like a charm for me.
Tim Starling wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
Nice work!
I have a question: I see
*Cortado (Java) (selected)*
How can I use VLC instead? I have it installed..if both are properly configured, I would see a choose dialog? or it is all automatic?
--alnokta
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Nice work!
I have a question: I see
*Cortado (Java) (selected)*
How can I use VLC instead? I have it installed..if both are properly configured, I would see a choose dialog? or it is all automatic?
Yes, you would see an option below the Cortado link, if it were properly configured. You may need to install the VLC browser plugin separately, after you have installed the player, see:
http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html#id293992
If you're using Firefox or a similar browser, you'll be able to check that it is installed by typing "about:plugins" into the address bar, and searching the resulting page for VLC.
-- Tim Starling
Yes, you would see an option below the Cortado link, if it were properly configured. You may need to install the VLC browser plugin separately, after you have installed the player, see:
http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html#id293992
If you're using Firefox or a similar browser, you'll be able to check that it is installed by typing "about:plugins" into the address bar, and searching the resulting page for VLC.
Thank you. I can run vlc player now (sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc , cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libvlcplugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libvlcplugin.so)
I get 'no video' and it won't resume until I stop it and start it again.
There is no seek bar and total/elapsed indicator .. Is that on vlc's side or the extension side?
Also what happens if someone uploaded a high resolution file, Will it be reduced or it streams in high resolution as is?
Last thing, may be 'Options' instead of 'More'? ;)
--alnokta
On 9/6/07, Mohamed Magdy mohamed.m.k@gmail.com wrote:
There is no seek bar and total/elapsed indicator .. Is that on vlc's side or the extension side?
VLC (and the HTML5 video tag) will require a javascript slider bar. The Cortado (Java) player could be changed to use one for consistency sake.
A cunning VLC hacker, User:TheDJ, implemented one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ/WikimediaPlayer but I didn't get around to merging his code due to issues with VLC crashing on one of my systems.
It would probably be wise to merge his improvements.
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Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Also what happens if someone uploaded a high resolution file, Will it be reduced or it streams in high resolution as is?
Recoded versions is something we hope to have for the future, but not immediately.
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
On 9/6/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Also what happens if someone uploaded a high resolution file, Will it be reduced or it streams in high resolution as is?
Recoded versions is something we hope to have for the future, but not immediately.
Tim's code extracts the bitrate from the stream. We should consider putting in an idiot light that indicates the connection needed... should reduce the unhelpful "it doesn't work" complaints from people trying to view a 8mbit/sec stream on their dialup. ... it won't make it work but at least it will make it clear why it doesn't work.
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On 9/6/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Also what happens if someone uploaded a high resolution file, Will it be reduced or it streams in high resolution as is?
Recoded versions is something we hope to have for the future, but not immediately.
Tim's code extracts the bitrate from the stream. We should consider putting in an idiot light that indicates the connection needed... should reduce the unhelpful "it doesn't work" complaints from people trying to view a 8mbit/sec stream on their dialup. ... it won't make it work but at least it will make it clear why it doesn't work.
Well, it may also help if we can bang at Cortado to make sure it's not just trying to stream (which sucks) but can handle something more in the play-as-you-download vein.
-- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
On 9/6/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, it may also help if we can bang at Cortado to make sure it's not just trying to stream (which sucks) but can handle something more in the play-as-you-download vein.
In theory it's not 'just trying to stream' ... in practice the buffering code is ineffective and needs some work.
Java coders wanted.
(ideally, it should have tunables for min and max buffersize which actually work... and it would be nice if it could clock the transfer rate and buffer until it expects the remaining time is less than the file length).
Cool! Works for me in Firefox 2. Doesn't work for me in IE5, but I wouldn't expect it to [ 1999 called and it wants its browser back, right? ;-) ]
From the narky HTML validation department:
line 88 column 95 - Warning: <img> element not empty or not closed line 88 column 588 - Warning: <img> element not empty or not closed line 88 column 95 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute i.e.: - <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/thumb/8/80/Test_Bungy.ogg/mid-Test_Bungy.ogg.jpg" width="384" height="288"> + <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/thumb/8/80/Test_Bungy.ogg/mid-Test_Bungy.ogg.jpg" width="384" height="288" alt="Test Bungy.ogg" />
... and from the whiny JavaScript department: Warning: assignment to undeclared variable elt - Line: 27 Source File: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js?1 Warning: assignment to undeclared variable div2 - Line: 290 Source File: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js?1 (i.e. probably stick a 'var' in front of those 2 JS lines).
Should clicking on the speaker icon on the bottom-right of the Java version cause it to mute or change the volume? It doesn't seem to for me, but maybe I have an old version of Java installed. Then again, maybe it just means "this video has sound".
Also I tried uploading a test Motion JPEG AVI from a Canon camera to test.wikipedia.org, but got the error: '".avi" is an unwanted file type - List of allowed file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, xcf, pdf, mid, sxw, sxi, sxc, sxd, ogg, svg, djvu', which is kind of expected (although as an aside it could maybe be nice if we gave that error before rather than after uploading) ... So I tried to cheat and I just renamed the file to have a .ogg extension, and of course that uploaded but wouldn't play (said: "(Invalid ogg file: Invalid magic number)", I think). So then I changed the format in Avidemux to "OGM", saved that, but Avidemux could not convert the audio ... so I uploaded it anyway (GSpot says the container is "File Type: Ogg Media; Mime Type: application/x-ogg"), and now it just says "(Invalid ogg file: )" : http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MVI_4015_ski-test.ogg . So my questions are: * Can anyone recommend something to convert AVIs to OGG that will keep the player happy? * If that is a valid file OGG file, but the audio isn't valid, should it play the video but ignore the audio?
-- All the best, Nick.
-----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Tim Starling Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2007 9:16 AM To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] Video/audio player extension now on test.wikipedia.org
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On 9/6/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
So then I changed the format in Avidemux to "OGM", saved that, but Avidemux could not convert the audio ... so I uploaded it anyway (GSpot says the container is "File Type: Ogg Media; Mime Type: application/x-ogg"), and now it just says "(Invalid ogg file: )" : http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MVI_4015_ski-test.ogg . So my questions are:
- Can anyone recommend something to convert AVIs to OGG that will keep the player happy?
- If that is a valid file OGG file, but the audio isn't valid, should it play the video but ignore the audio?
OGM is not a valid Ogg OGM is OGM. It's an odd non-standard beast which gained popularity among anime warez trading groups so there is support for it in a number of tools.
In short you probably want to use either VLC or ffmpeg2theora. I've recently heard people having some problems getting VLC to produce output.
See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Converting_video for real instructions. Please recommend improvements to the page.
On 06/09/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
- Can anyone recommend something to convert AVIs to OGG that will keep the player happy?
I did this conversion last weekend using VLC and made a screenshot of it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Using_VLC_to_convert_video_to_OGG_fo...
But I haven't figured out a way to test if the file is "really" converted or not. (I didn't particularly want to upload the video to Wikimedia as it was just a message for a friend.) So if you could let me know if it "really" works or not that would be cool. :)
cheers, Brianna
- Can anyone recommend something to convert AVIs to OGG that will keep the player happy?
I did this conversion last weekend using VLC and made a screenshot of it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Using_VLC_to_convert_video_to_OGG_fo...
But I haven't figured out a way to test if the file is "really" converted or not. So if you could let me know if it "really" works or not that would be cool. :)
Well, for me VLC definitely doesn't work, at least on these files :-( On a truncated video that had been through avidemux, VLC produces a 0 Kb file and exits immediately, with no error. On the raw AVI produced by the camera, VLC crashes with an error, and then for an encore causes a secondary Dr Watson error: --------------------------- DrWatson Fatal Error --------------------------- Dr. Watson was unable to attach to the process. It is possible that process exited before Dr. Watson could attach to it.
Windows 2000 returned error code = 87 The parameter is incorrect. --------------------------- OK ---------------------------
[ This was Win 2000 + VLC media player 0.8.6c (wxWidgets interface) ]
But I really like the instructions in that PNG - they were very easy to follow :-)
Also, since I installed VLC and ticked "Mozilla plugin" as a VLC install option, the Java Cortado player has stopped working, it now gives this error when switching to it using the "More..." link underneath the video: --------------------------- Java(TM) Plug-in Fatal Error --------------------------- The Java Runtime Environment cannot be loaded from <\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll> --------------------------- OK ---------------------------
... however the plus side is that the VLC plugin works instead - so easy come, easy go :-)
There is no seek bar and total/elapsed indicator .. Is that on vlc's side or the extension side?
Functionally, the Java and VLC playback methods seem quite similar (there's no bar to jump to a location in the video using VLC plugin though, or elapsed time in VLC for me either though, but the Java plugin has both of these).
(I didn't particularly want to upload the video to Wikimedia as it was just a message for a friend.)
Well I'm not exactly uploading anything massively significant either - a test video of me skiing badly just to see what works & what doesn't.
In short you probably want to use either VLC or ffmpeg2theora. I've recently heard people having some problems getting VLC to produce output.
ffmpeg2theora worked beautifully. You just download it and run it from the command line: ---------------------------------- S:\OGG-videos>ffmpeg2theora-0.19.exe --output ski-out3.ogg MVI_4015_ski-test-old.avi Input #0, avi, from 'MVI_4015_ski-test-old.avi': Duration: 00:00:17.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1250 kb/s Stream #0.0: Video: mjpeg, yuvj422p, 320x240, 15.00 fps(r) Stream #0.1: Audio: pcm_u8, 11024 Hz, mono, 88 kb/s Resize: 320x240 0:00:17.00 audio: 28kbps video: 220kbps, time remaining: 00:00:00
S:\OGG-videos> ----------------------------------
And then upload that, and then the video plays: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MVI_4015_ski-test.ogg [ It doesn't give a still image of the video though (at least for me), not sure if it should or not. ] Yay! So, all you aspiring wikimedian lonelygirl15s out there, ffmpeg2theora it is!
-- All the best, Nick.
On 06/09/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
- Can anyone recommend something to convert AVIs to OGG that will keep the player happy?
Are there any patent issues with running an AVI to Ogg converter on a US-based server?
The movie files from Canon cameras are MPEG-1 MJPEGs - high-quality, very editable, bloody huge.
- d.
On 9/6/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me very well either. I see the image, and click the play button. I get a flash of the java logo, and then about a second of video. It then seems to get stuck on "Buffering 2%". Firefox 2.0.0.6, Windows Vista, Java Plug-in 1.6.0_02 for Netscape Navigator (DLL Helper) (copy-pasted from about:plugins). Of course, this may be just test.wikipedia slowness, so forgive me if it's actually okay. Otherwise, the interface I've seen so far is pretty impressive - good work!
On 9/6/07, Andrew Garrett andrew@epstone.net wrote:
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me very well either. I see the image, and click the play button. I get a flash of the java logo, and then about a second of video. It then seems to get stuck on "Buffering 2%". Firefox 2.0.0.6, Windows Vista, Java Plug-in 1.6.0_02 for Netscape Navigator (DLL Helper) (copy-pasted from about:plugins). Of course, this may be just test.wikipedia slowness, so forgive me if it's actually okay. Otherwise, the interface I've seen so far is pretty impressive - good work!
Interesting. Works on a refresh, even after clearing the cache. Seeing as Greg reported the same thing, perhaps this is a first-load issue?
The first video I watched, ski-test, because there was no preview the "play bar" was up very high. When I pressed play, a video-sized box came up and was blank for about five seconds (as other people have reported). It actually overlayed the text, until playback started and then the text "jumped down".
On the second video, test-bunny, playback started more quickly, but the controls didn't seem to work. After I pressed pause, I couldn't press stop -- just pause again (ie unpause). Also I couldn't drag the control along the time horizon bar thing.
Some other thoughts: * The "More..." link should actually say "Options". * The audio icon should presumably have mute/volume control functionality attached to it... otherwise it's a bit confusing. * I don't get what the point of the "still image only" "player"...doesn't that happen by default, still image preview?
cheers, Brianna
Brianna Laugher wrote:
The first video I watched, ski-test, because there was no preview the "play bar" was up very high. When I pressed play, a video-sized box came up and was blank for about five seconds (as other people have reported). It actually overlayed the text, until playback started and then the text "jumped down".
This appears to be a Mozilla issue. The browser freezes while it loads the jar file from the server. In IE you can continue to use the browser normally while it is loading.
-- Tim Starling
Tim Starling wrote:
Brianna Laugher wrote:
The first video I watched, ski-test, because there was no preview the "play bar" was up very high. When I pressed play, a video-sized box came up and was blank for about five seconds (as other people have reported). It actually overlayed the text, until playback started and then the text "jumped down".
This appears to be a Mozilla issue. The browser freezes while it loads the jar file from the server. In IE you can continue to use the browser normally while it is loading.
Fixed, found a workaround involving iframes.
-- Tim Starling
On 06/09/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
Allow me to firmly compliment Tim for not only his work on this superb extension, which worked for me out of the box without any difficulties (this is way back when it was first committed, and it ran fine, even though I'm an evil Windows user), but also his ongoing work on making MediaWiki's media handling a damn sight saner and more pleasant to work with.
Top banana!
Rob Church
Overall, it's working for me on OSX with Safari 3 beta and Firefox. But I'm not sure what the sound is supposed to be doing (the subtitles suggested to me that I should have low expectations). It seems to start in the middle and is not reproducible in terms of when there is sound or not when I replay it.
Also, mousing over the speaker icon and clicking, holding, etc. doesn't seem to do anything for me in either browser.
Jim
On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
===================================== Jim Hu Associate Professor Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics 2128 TAMU Texas A&M Univ. College Station, TX 77843-2128 979-862-4054
Jim Hu wrote:
Overall, it's working for me on OSX with Safari 3 beta and Firefox. But I'm not sure what the sound is supposed to be doing (the subtitles suggested to me that I should have low expectations). It seems to start in the middle and is not reproducible in terms of when there is sound or not when I replay it.
Yes it's a rubbish video. The sound starts at 11s, the sound quality is poor, and the video quality is poor. But it was a useful test file for me because it has both sound and video (most videos on commons are silent) and it was quick to download.
Also, mousing over the speaker icon and clicking, holding, etc. doesn't seem to do anything for me in either browser.
Indeed, that's a Cortado issue. It's a clever little speaker icon that does nothing.
-- Tim Starling
On 08/09/2007, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Indeed, that's a Cortado issue. It's a clever little speaker icon that does nothing.
Now's our chance to whack in something that'll embezzle us $5 each time someone clicks or drags it - we'll make a fortune off it, I reckon.
Rob Church
On 9/7/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yes it's a rubbish video. The sound starts at 11s, the sound quality is poor, and the video quality is poor. But it was a useful test file for me because it has both sound and video (most videos on commons are silent) and it was quick to download.
Also, mousing over the speaker icon and clicking, holding, etc. doesn't seem to do anything for me in either browser.
Indeed, that's a Cortado issue. It's a clever little speaker icon that does nothing.
Well.. *almost nothing* ... I did warn you about that: Sep 05 19:39:01 <gmaxwell> hm. I need to give you another patch against cortado. The "audio available" speaker icon thing is frequently mistaken for a non-working vo lumn knob.
On 08/09/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Sep 05 19:39:01 <gmaxwell> hm. I need to give you another patch against cortado. The "audio available" speaker icon thing is frequently mistaken for a non-working vo lumn knob.
Because that's the icon for the popup volume control on YouTube.
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 08/09/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Sep 05 19:39:01 <gmaxwell> hm. I need to give you another patch against cortado. The "audio available" speaker icon thing is frequently mistaken for a non-working vo lumn knob.
Because that's the icon for the popup volume control on YouTube.
...and every other media player app for the last 20 years...
-- brion
Is it live now? Seems to be live on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Ya%21 . Check the box under 'Cover versions'... the player extends beyond the box and covers some of the text.
cheers Brianna
On 06/09/2007, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On 09/09/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
Is it live now? Seems to be live on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Ya%21 . Check the box under 'Cover versions'... the player extends beyond the box and covers some of the text.
Didn't cover the text for me. The sound playing Just Worked! ... thirty seconds after I clicked the damn button. Hanging Firefox for that time. Interface-wise, that's indistinguishable from "I've just crashed your browser" and I was all set to kill it before the music started.
- d.
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