On 22/11/06, brion@svn.wikimedia.org brion@svn.wikimedia.org wrote:
- END USERS: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- REPEAT!
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- NOTHING WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU DO THAT!
- You can make your customizations on the wiki.
- While logged in as a sysop user, go to [[Special:Allmessages]]
- and edit the MediaWiki:* pages listed there.
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY OR YOU WILL JUST BE CONFUSED!
I would be willing to put cold hard cash on it that someone is going to ignore this regardless, and I say, "ready your cluesticks" :)
Rob Church
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 06:00:30PM +0000, Rob Church wrote:
On 22/11/06, brion@svn.wikimedia.org brion@svn.wikimedia.org wrote:
- END USERS: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- REPEAT!
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- NOTHING WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU DO THAT!
- You can make your customizations on the wiki.
- While logged in as a sysop user, go to [[Special:Allmessages]]
- and edit the MediaWiki:* pages listed there.
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY OR YOU WILL JUST BE CONFUSED!
I would be willing to put cold hard cash on it that someone is going to ignore this regardless, and I say, "ready your cluesticks" :)
"Number 6... the LART"
Cheers, -- jra
On 23/11/06, Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com wrote:
"Number 6... the LART"
My LART is bigger than yours.
Rob Church
Rob Church wrote:
On 22/11/06, brion@svn.wikimedia.org brion@svn.wikimedia.org wrote:
- END USERS: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- REPEAT!
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
- NOTHING WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU DO THAT!
- You can make your customizations on the wiki.
- While logged in as a sysop user, go to [[Special:Allmessages]]
- and edit the MediaWiki:* pages listed there.
- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY OR YOU WILL JUST BE CONFUSED!
I would be willing to put cold hard cash on it that someone is going to ignore this regardless, and I say, "ready your cluesticks" :)
End users other than Wikimedia, you mean? We still have no way to set site-wide default messages apart from editing the messages file. The messages files still have some Wikimedia-specific text, such as the donation link and the wording of the copyright notices. No doubt there would be more such Wikimedia references if we had a way to include them without having them show up on 10,000 other sites.
-- Tim Starling
On 23/11/06, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
End users other than Wikimedia, you mean? We still have no way to set site-wide default messages apart from editing the messages file. The messages files still have some Wikimedia-specific text, such as the donation link and the wording of the copyright notices. No doubt there would be more such Wikimedia references if we had a way to include them without having them show up on 10,000 other sites.
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Rob Church
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Tim Starling wrote:
On 22/11/06, brion@svn.wikimedia.org brion@svn.wikimedia.org wrote:
- END USERS: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE DIRECTLY!
[snip]
End users other than Wikimedia, you mean?
Yes, the message is directed at the third-party users who run straight to the PHP files to make customizations on their one-off site and then ask "why doesn't my site change when I change this file???" without checking the FAQ.
We still have no way to set site-wide default messages apart from editing the messages file. The messages files still have some Wikimedia-specific text, such as the donation link and the wording of the copyright notices. No doubt there would be more such Wikimedia references if we had a way to include them without having them show up on 10,000 other sites.
I suspect we could have an extension-like interface for overriding the generic default messages with some site-specific defaults. That _probably_ would even work with the present extension interface.
If we're clever, we could also make something editable, probably, with appropriate shared caching.
(Attention: clever people! Try your hand and become famous. :)
- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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Brion Vibber wrote:
I suspect we could have an extension-like interface for overriding the generic default messages with some site-specific defaults. That _probably_ would even work with the present extension interface.
If we're clever, we could also make something editable, probably, with appropriate shared caching.
(Attention: clever people! Try your hand and become famous. :)
I'd like to ask for clarification, then. Is the issue about actual messages floating around that shouldn't be there for external wikis? Or simply the fact that if the language file was made totally install neutral, there'd have to be a lot of work to get the messages in-line with Wikimedia's policies (an in-house tool)? Are we talking about a mass MediaWiki message editing tool?
Brion, the signature attached to that last posting wasn't valid.
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Edward Z. Yang wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
I suspect we could have an extension-like interface for overriding the generic default messages with some site-specific defaults. That _probably_ would even work with the present extension interface.
If we're clever, we could also make something editable, probably, with appropriate shared caching.
(Attention: clever people! Try your hand and become famous. :)
I'd like to ask for clarification, then. Is the issue about actual messages floating around that shouldn't be there for external wikis? Or simply the fact that if the language file was made totally install neutral, there'd have to be a lot of work to get the messages in-line with Wikimedia's policies (an in-house tool)?
Right.
Are we talking about a mass MediaWiki message editing tool?
Sure, why not?
Brion, the signature attached to that last posting wasn't valid.
Enigmail+GPG says it is.
- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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Brion Vibber wrote:
Are we talking about a mass MediaWiki message editing tool?
Sure, why not?
I'll see what I can do, then. Hmm... article editing code is notoriously messy though...
Edward Z. Yang wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
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Brion, the signature attached to that last posting wasn't valid.
It was for me...
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Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Edward Z. Yang wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
<snip> > Brion, the signature attached to that last posting wasn't valid.
It was for me...
Here's the attached message I recieved. Maybe something is mangled?
Edward Z. Yang wrote:
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Edward Z. Yang wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
<snip> > Brion, the signature attached to that last posting wasn't valid. It was for me...
Here's the attached message I recieved. Maybe something is mangled?
Yep, the email address had been replaced by a gmane message ID.
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