Hello and welcome to the latest installment of the WMF Deployment Highlights for the week of July 29th, 2013.
As always, the full schedule with more details can be found here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
== Monday == * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias: ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
* All non-Wikipedia sites will be upgraded to MediaWiki 1.22wmf12. This includes Commons, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikibooks, etc.
== Thursday ==
* All Wikipedias will be upgraded to MediaWiki 1.22wmf12 * All test wikis and mediawiki.org will be upgraded to MW 1.22wmf13
The bulk of the week is the normal schedule of feature team deploy windows with nothing extraordinary scheduled other than continuing bug fixes in eg Echo/ULS/MobileFrontend.
If you have any questions, please do let me know.
Best,
Greg
<quote name="Greg Grossmeier" date="2013-07-26" time="11:59:19 -0700">
== Monday ==
- VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias:
** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
I forgot Russian! There are 7 Wikipedias where this will happen, and Russian was missing from my list.
<quote name="Greg Grossmeier" date="2013-07-26" time="12:06:37 -0700">
<quote name="Greg Grossmeier" date="2013-07-26" time="11:59:19 -0700"> > == Monday == > * VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on > the following Wikipedias: > ** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
I forgot Russian! There are 7 Wikipedias where this will happen, and Russian was missing from my list.
8! Forgot Hebrew!
That's it, I swear.
Greg
2013/7/26 Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org:
== Monday ==
- VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias:
** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
I just would like to point out that it would be a sign of respect towards the community to postpone the deployment of VE on German Wikipedia until the RFC has been held there. AFAICS the majority of users rejects VE (and more beta releases that are in the pipeline) at this point of time if it comes as an opt-out version only. The German community seeks to be treated as the Dutch community.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Software-Updates
Regards, Jürgen.
Juergen Fenn wrote:
2013/7/26 Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org:
== Monday ==
- VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias:
** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
I just would like to point out that it would be a sign of respect towards the community to postpone the deployment of VE on German Wikipedia until the RFC has been held there. AFAICS the majority of users rejects VE (and more beta releases that are in the pipeline) at this point of time if it comes as an opt-out version only. The German community seeks to be treated as the Dutch community.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Software-Updates
Cross-reference:
* https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49998 * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76199
MZMcBride
Without fanning the flames unduly, I'll note that VE is already enabled by default for all registered users on de.wikipedia.org, and that the linked vote on the de wiki was just initiated today and has not yet even proceeded past the "do we think the question is well-formed enough to vote on" stage (please correct my German or bureaucracy-grokking if I'm wrong here).
I don't intend to offer an opinion one way or the other, just noting that I was unable to verify the claims made from the links provided. Please don't have all the German-speakers in the world email me their dis/pleasure personally. (I'm not the hacker you are looking for!)
On topic, it may be worth mentioning the VE opt-out preference in the deployment calendar. I believe this was deployed on July 24, but I'm not familiar enough with deployment-ese to know how this would be listed on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments (or if it should be). --scott
2013/7/27 C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org:
Without fanning the flames unduly, I'll note that VE is already enabled by default for all registered users on de.wikipedia.org, and that the linked vote on the de wiki was just initiated today and has not yet even proceeded past the "do we think the question is well-formed enough to vote on" stage (please correct my German or bureaucracy-grokking if I'm wrong here).
Please note that a poll about the depoyment has just begun on dewiki:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/VisualEditor_Opt-in
Regards, Jürgen.
Please note that a poll about the depoyment has just begun on dewiki:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/VisualEditor_Opt-in
At this time, 410 users on German Wikipedia are against the deployment of the Visual Editor and want everything to remain as is (opt-in for registered users only). Only 20 have spoken out in favour of VE as planned. 4 are in favour of making VE the standard editor for logged-in users as is. 28 have asked for a different way to activate it other than the edit button.
The German Wikipedia community asks the WMF to not deploy VE on Monday as planned for all users.
Regards, Jürgen.
Hello, Am Sonntag 28 Juli 2013, 18:09:33 schrieb Juergen Fenn:
and want everything to remain as is (opt-in for registered users only).
small correction here: deWP wants that everything will be again as is WAS last week (opt-in for registered users only).
Sincerely, DaB.
2013/7/28 DaB. WP@daniel.baur4.info:
small correction here: deWP wants that everything will be again as is WAS last week (opt-in for registered users only).
Of course, you are right, Dab. Thanks for correcting me. Sorry about the mistake.
Regards, Jürgen.
Just closing the loop on this thread: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52202
That's what was done, but there possible reports of IPs getting VE on dewiki.
Greg
<quote name="Greg Grossmeier" date="2013-07-29" time="11:29:49 -0700">
Just closing the loop on this thread: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52202
That's what was done, but there possible reports of IPs getting VE on dewiki.
Which looks like a caching issue: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52232
My guess is nlwp was excluded because of high impact bugs, rather than a non-technical reason.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49400
The high-ish impact bug I know of for German Wikipedia is
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51119
(but that is on dab pages, which probably dont receive many edits)
John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Jul 27, 2013 6:15 AM, "Juergen Fenn" schneeschmelze@googlemail.com wrote:
2013/7/26 Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org:
== Monday ==
- VisualEditor will be enabled for non-logged in (anonymous) users on the following Wikipedias:
** German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Swedish
I just would like to point out that it would be a sign of respect towards the community to postpone the deployment of VE on German Wikipedia until the RFC has been held there. AFAICS the majority of users rejects VE (and more beta releases that are in the pipeline) at this point of time if it comes as an opt-out version only. The German community seeks to be treated as the Dutch community.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Software-Updates
Regards, Jürgen.
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