Am 01.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Trevor Parscal: > 2. Contrast ratio between background and foreground colors on the

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors#X11_color_names dark background colours ==> bold white (text) colour

On 1 March 2012 21:38, Trevor Parscal<tparscal(a)wikimedia.org>  wrote: I gotta ask - where's the lorem ipsum from? - d. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

What about adding a couple of style markers on the body tag? For example classes for "high-contrast", "avoid-red-green", "avoid-green-blue", "avoid-red-yellow"... or? Or perhaps as additional styles stright from the mediawiki-space, that way the accessability issues can be crowdsourced? There was also a question about scaling of content text on OTRS some time ago. I'm not quite sure but I think the idea was to use an other font in the content as he had to read that, while all the other text from the portlets he learned over time so if that text was difficult to read it didn't do so much. The text size proposal was to add simple scaling buttons to step up the text, and I would propose to store the set size in local storage. The same applies to color I believe, as it should be possible to change it without logging in. At nowp there is a link in the sidebar to a page describing how visually impaired can chage skin. It uses the simpleskin http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Svaksynte&useskin=s… John On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > >       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum > > > On 3/1/12 1:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> >> >> On 1 March 2012 21:38, Trevor Parscal<tparscal(a)wikimedia.org>  wrote: >> >>> Screenshot of new diff styles: >>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148 >> >> >> >> >> I gotta ask - where's the lorem ipsum from? >> >> >> - d. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > -- > Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

You can not design for one size fits all when it comes to accessibility, its simply not possible. John On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Daniel Friesen <lists(a)nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote: > > Accessibility should not be a user preference. > > I also do not like the idea of site specific text size change widgets: > http://webaim.org/blog/web-accessibility-preferences-are-for-sissies/ > > If you want, I can even dig up the full discussion I had with CCA that > ended > in them dropping the text resize widget from their wiki's design ;). > > > On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:19:48 -0800, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What about adding a couple of style markers on the body tag? For >> example classes for "high-contrast", "avoid-red-green", >> "avoid-green-blue", "avoid-red-yellow"... or? >> >> Or perhaps as additional styles stright from the mediawiki-space, that >> way the accessability issues can be crowdsourced? >> >> There was also a question about scaling of content text on OTRS some >> time ago. I'm not quite sure but I think the idea was to use an other >> font in the content as he had to read that, while all the other text >> from the portlets he learned over time so if that text was difficult >> to read it didn't do so much. >> >> The text size proposal was to add simple scaling buttons to step up >> the text, and I would propose to store the set size in local storage. >> The same applies to color I believe, as it should be possible to >> change it without logging in. >> >> At nowp there is a link in the sidebar to a page describing how >> visually impaired can chage skin. It uses the simpleskin >> >> >> http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Svaksynte&useskin=s… >> >> John >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum >>> >>> >>> On 3/1/12 1:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1 March 2012 21:38, Trevor Parscal<tparscal(a)wikimedia.org>  wrote: >>>> >>>>> Screenshot of new diff styles: >>>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I gotta ask - where's the lorem ipsum from? >>>> >>>> >>>> - d. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > -- > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Screenshot of new diff styles: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148

I've gone ahead and resolved bug #11374 after committing r112836. Screenshot of new diff styles: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148 Brandon and I talked about the colors and the way color-blind people will perceive them - this color set provides the best cross-cultural and accessible approach so far. The design also improves contrast issues and draw attention to the changed portions better than any previous versions.