Hello,
I am going to teach a graduate-level course on quantum physics (quantum simulation) at the University of Hannover, Germany. At the moment, I am evaluating Wikiversity for collaboration with other lecturers and students on the creation of lecture notes.
As the notes will contain a significant amount of mathematical content, it would be extremely useful to export into LaTeX format for distributing printed copies. As far as I know, the Wiki2LaTeX extension to MediaWiki [1] provides this function. Would it be possible to include this extension into Wikiversity?
Best regards,
Hendrik
[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wiki2LaTeX
Hello Hendrik,
On 03/15/2013 08:15 AM, Hendrik Weimer wrote:
As the notes will contain a significant amount of mathematical content, it would be extremely useful to export into LaTeX format for distributing printed copies. As far as I know, the Wiki2LaTeX extension to MediaWiki [1] provides this function. Would it be possible to include this extension into Wikiversity?
This is a list for general Wikimedia development. Decision about project X are mostly taken by project X and you should start discussing them there. For instance, if you want a feature for the German Wikiversity (I assume your content would be in German) a place to start is
http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria
Aber moment! ;)
Before asking for a solution be sure you are formulating the right problem. Isn't the PDF export enough to print Wikiversity content appropriately, including mathematical content? You can already write and display mathematical content in Wikiversity and other Wikimedia projects. Anyway, you ill probably get more from the Wikiversity community.
See also: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Topic:LaTeX
Also note that this extension is (afaik) not deployed in Wikimedia servers. Adding a new extension there is a big deal, so you want to see whether you can solve your problems with the current MediaWiki + extensions deployed in Wikimedia servers.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Hendrik,
On 03/15/2013 08:15 AM, Hendrik Weimer wrote:
As the notes will contain a significant amount of mathematical content, it would be extremely useful to export into LaTeX format for distributing printed copies. As far as I know, the Wiki2LaTeX extension to MediaWiki [1] provides this function. Would it be possible to include this extension into Wikiversity?
This is a list for general Wikimedia development. Decision about project X are mostly taken by project X and you should start discussing them there. For instance, if you want a feature for the German Wikiversity (I assume your content would be in German) a place to start is
http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria
Aber moment! ;)
Before asking for a solution be sure you are formulating the right problem. Isn't the PDF export enough to print Wikiversity content appropriately, including mathematical content? You can already write and display mathematical content in Wikiversity and other Wikimedia projects.
I'm pretty sure it is not enough, given the low quality of those PDFs: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27574
Helder
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Hendrik Weimer hweimer@itp.uni-hannover.de wrote:
Hello,
I am going to teach a graduate-level course on quantum physics (quantum simulation) at the University of Hannover, Germany. At the moment, I am evaluating Wikiversity for collaboration with other lecturers and students on the creation of lecture notes.
As the notes will contain a significant amount of mathematical content, it would be extremely useful to export into LaTeX format for distributing printed copies. As far as I know, the Wiki2LaTeX extension to MediaWiki [1] provides this function. Would it be possible to include this extension into Wikiversity?
Best regards,
Hendrik
[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wiki2LaTeX
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That's a large extension, which means the review effort would be non-trivial (Although just looking at it, I noticed a couple lines which look suspicious). Its probably unlikely to be deployed unless people _really_ wanted it (due to the amount of review required). If it was to be reviewed, the process of reviewing it would probably take a long time (So probably out of your time frame).
Thus I don't think its likely to be installed :(
--bawolff
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:08 PM, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
That's a large extension, which means the review effort would be non-trivial (Although just looking at it, I noticed a couple lines which look suspicious). Its probably unlikely to be deployed unless people _really_ wanted it (due to the amount of review required). If it was to be reviewed, the process of reviewing it would probably take a long time (So probably out of your time frame).
Ugh. I've slapped a security alert on it: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=660216&oldid=645957 Not deployable in its present form, needs a MAJOR rewrite, not only to address the glaring security problems, but also to improve overall code quality and scalability. We already have Extension:Collection for exporting to PDF, it can be used for text processing for now.
bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com writes:
That's a large extension, which means the review effort would be non-trivial (Although just looking at it, I noticed a couple lines which look suspicious). Its probably unlikely to be deployed unless people _really_ wanted it (due to the amount of review required). If it was to be reviewed, the process of reviewing it would probably take a long time (So probably out of your time frame).
I understand, thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions. For now, I will use the XML exporter and make my way from there.
Best regards,
Hendrik
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