Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
Hoi,
How did this come a about? Are there things that are moving in this way or is this an idea that you are floating ?
PS It is not a bad idea. It is just that much easier to do something like this when it supports things on the ground. Thanks, Gerard
On 30 November 2012 01:50, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groupshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi,
Summary: this proposal is serious and it is being done within the Wikimedia Foundation goals. If you want to start a MediaWiki Group you can help getting the proposals for groups and reps approved and you could be the first one in the row, perhaps in no more than a couple of weeks. :)
On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
How did this come a about? Are there things that are moving in this way or is this an idea that you are floating ?
I also find it to be a good idea :) but it's not mine. Having user groups is a goal of the Engineering team at the Wikimedia Foundation. Being the Technical Contributor Coordinator this falls completely in my plate - and I'm happy for that!
Actually 3 real user groups are expected to be created before then end of the year (that is, in the following 4 weeks!):
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals#Milestone...
Q2 (October-December) Goals for subcommunities: (...) 3 user groups
Q4 (April-June) Goals for subcommunities: (...) 5 user groups
I expect these groups to become a main delegation/empowerment tool to organize more, more distributed and more diverse technical activities. It fits perfectly in the Wikimedia Foundation strategy and the way the Wikimedia movement grows.
As soon as I figure out how budget is requested at the Engineering team ;) I will ask for some in order to help bootstrapping the first groups and related activities. I also want to discuss with the people close to Wikimedia chapters and the new Funds Dissemination Committee how can we help MediaWiki groups to fund their activities through their processes.
PS It is not a bad idea. It is just that much easier to do something like this when it supports things on the ground.
Absolutely. I didn't want to blow whistles too loud after a first draft that not even myself had re-read yesterday. :) Today I will forward the proposal to the WMF communications / community / legal teams to make sure that whatever we do fits well in the overall picture. Once we have something we broadly agree upon here, I will forward the proposal to wikimedia-l for wider awareness and polishing.
Thanks, Gerard
On 30 November 2012 01:50, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groupshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
hi quim,
you managed to confuse me :) i thought that it is a great idea to finally implement groups, and access control lists in mediawiki as first class citizen, like e.g. moinmoin has it. one enters one ACL line on top of the wiki wiki page see here for details: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists
rupert.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On 11/29/2012 11:47 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:
hi quim,
you managed to confuse me :) i thought that it is a great idea to finally implement groups, and access control lists in mediawiki as first class citizen, like e.g. moinmoin has it. one enters one ACL line on top of the wiki wiki page see here for details: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists
rupert.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
:)
With this name I expected to confuse a few dozens of people in the entire World while they finish the first paragraph of the email.
I reality MediaWiki Groups names will be seen in certain context, making that confusion almost impossible:
"... presented by Mary Smith, from the MediaWiki HTML5 Group"
"... the booth will be run by the MediaWiki Bangalore Group volunteers"
"... the contest is organized by the MediaWiki Group Brazil"
"... this series of webinars have been produced by the MediaWiki UX Group"
etc
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
After some valuable feedback from the Affiliations Committee and others, plus a big wave of silent approval...
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
Feedback welcome again. As soon as we get consensus here and the green light from the AffCom we will move the page to its official location.
Now, essentially:
MediaWiki Group = Wikimedia User Group + MediaWiki extension
Such extension is just a set of extra rules of coordination within the MediaWiki community:
* Defined name schema: MediaWiki _something_ Group. * Defined location of proposals. * Discussion period in main MW mailing list. * Defined location of main pages groups approved. * Recommended: endorsement from MW maintainers or WMF devs.
The big change is located in the way a new group is created:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AQgil%2FMediaWiki_groups&a...
And we have moved away the idea of MediaWiki reps. We will deal with that separately, with Wikimedia coordination (if there is an ongoing discussion about this topic) or not.
How does this look like now?
And now the fun part:
IF you are reading these lines AND you are interested creating a group just put your betatesting shirt on and head to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/(((myGroup)))
Without "MediaWiki" or "Group", as in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Lua https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Bangalore etc
Start editing and reply to this thread in wikitech-l. You will help us fine tuning this process while it's being setup and we will help you becoming one of the first MediaWiki groups ever. Deal?
On 11/29/2012 04:50 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
Hi, here you have a first draft about MediaWiki Groups, and implicitly MediaWiki reps:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/MediaWiki_groups
MediaWiki groups organize open source community activities within the scope of specific topics and geographical areas. They extend the capacity of the Wikimedia Foundation in events, training, promotion and other technical activities benefiting Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement and the MediaWiki software.
Imagine MediaWiki Germany Group, MediaWiki Lua Group...
These groups may become a significant source of growth and wider diversity of our community.
Please bring your ideas to the discussion page - or here. Thank you!
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