Some Wikipedias have special pages where users can report abuse via live mirrors. Unfortunately, the procedure of dealing with them is not really clear, so that on German Wikipedia e.g. there are lots of reports but nobody does anything against the mirrors because there is no suitable place where to request blocking them. The mailing list is quite a bad place and reporting them to the server admins individually is not very nice, also. Tim Starling proposed to make a Meta page about that and I've created one, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors. I think it would be a bit easier for the responsible people if people reported all live mirrors there than on single Wikis.
Greetings,
Pill (wiki.pill @ gmail.com)
Pill wrote:
Some Wikipedias have special pages where users can report abuse via live mirrors. Unfortunately, the procedure of dealing with them is not really clear, so that on German Wikipedia e.g. there are lots of reports but nobody does anything against the mirrors because there is no suitable place where to request blocking them. The mailing list is quite a bad place and reporting them to the server admins individually is not very nice, also. Tim Starling proposed to make a Meta page about that and I've created one, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors. I think it would be a bit easier for the responsible people if people reported all live mirrors there than on single Wikis.
I know there was such a meta page before. It may still exist, but I have no idea where. There are probably still links so if this stays active, redirects should be created.
Matthew Flaschen
On 2/22/07, Matthew Flaschen matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu wrote:
I know there was such a meta page before. It may still exist, but I have no idea where. There are probably still links so if this stays active, redirects should be created.
There was this one which mixed live mirrors and sites which are violating the GFDL but aren't live mirrors: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-compliant_site_coordination#To_block
Angela
Pill wrote:
Some Wikipedias have special pages where users can report abuse via live mirrors. Unfortunately, the procedure of dealing with them is not really clear, so that on German Wikipedia e.g. there are lots of reports but nobody does anything against the mirrors because there is no suitable place where to request blocking them. The mailing list is quite a bad place and reporting them to the server admins individually is not very nice, also. Tim Starling proposed to make a Meta page about that and I've created one, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors. I think it would be a bit easier for the responsible people if people reported all live mirrors there than on single Wikis.
Greetings,
Pill (wiki.pill @ gmail.com)
Something even better would be to report them in bugzilla. We could create a "live mirror" component to the "Wikimedia" product. Then admins will be able to handle them properly (since most of them already use bugzilla for MediaWiki).
Ashar Voultoiz wrote:
Pill wrote:
Some Wikipedias have special pages where users can report abuse via live mirrors. Unfortunately, the procedure of dealing with them is not really clear, so that on German Wikipedia e.g. there are lots of reports but nobody does anything against the mirrors because there is no suitable place where to request blocking them. The mailing list is quite a bad place and reporting them to the server admins individually is not very nice, also. Tim Starling proposed to make a Meta page about that and I've created one, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors. I think it would be a bit easier for the responsible people if people reported all live mirrors there than on single Wikis.
Greetings,
Pill (wiki.pill @ gmail.com)Something even better would be to report them in bugzilla. We could create a "live mirror" component to the "Wikimedia" product. Then admins will be able to handle them properly (since most of them already use bugzilla for MediaWiki).
New remote loaders are set up every day. I was thinking that it would be better to have a list of pending remote loaders that we can block in a batch, once a week or so. A bug report for each one seems a bit excessive.
-- Tim Starling
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:01:04PM +0000, Tim Starling wrote:
New remote loaders are set up every day. I was thinking that it would be better to have a list of pending remote loaders that we can block in a batch, once a week or so. A bug report for each one seems a bit excessive.
Is it possible to identify such machines by their pattern of transaction activity, using something akin to an IDB, and set blocking /32 rules in the edge router?
Cheers, -- jra
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:01:04PM +0000, Tim Starling wrote:
New remote loaders are set up every day. I was thinking that it would be better to have a list of pending remote loaders that we can block in a batch, once a week or so. A bug report for each one seems a bit excessive.
Is it possible to identify such machines by their pattern of transaction activity, using something akin to an IDB, and set blocking /32 rules in the edge router?
Maybe. I'd rather not discuss the precise heuristics I'd use in a public forum, but there may be room for development along those lines.
-- Tim Starling
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