Some of the mailing lists are getting, and their admins regularly rejecting, a fair amount of spam.
I'm going to see if I can get SpamAssassin set up to cull some of the more wretchedly obvious stuff out before it gets to mailman.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
I have a better suggestion -- upgrade to the most recent version of mailman.
The new version of mailman has an option to automatically discard any message that's from someone who isn't subscribed to the list. It still sends them a message explaining the problem, but the admin doesn't have to see it.
In my experience on another whole set of lists that I manage, this works wonderfully. The amount of spam that admins have to deal with goes to an absolute zero.
Brion Vibber wrote:
Some of the mailing lists are getting, and their admins regularly rejecting, a fair amount of spam.
I'm going to see if I can get SpamAssassin set up to cull some of the more wretchedly obvious stuff out before it gets to mailman.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On 5/21/03 9:04 AM, "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com wrote:
I have a better suggestion -- upgrade to the most recent version of mailman.
bulletin board....
Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote in news:200305210012.02343.brion@pobox.com:
Some of the mailing lists are getting, and their admins regularly rejecting, a fair amount of spam.
I'm going to see if I can get SpamAssassin set up to cull some of the more wretchedly obvious stuff out before it gets to mailman.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
I am list admin of Wikitech-l and Intlwiki-l. Since the removal of the @nupedia.com forwards my lits do not recieve a lot of spam anymore.
Mostly there are to types of postings;
- a list member who has used a emailadres where he is not subcribed whit. action: approve posting and inform the user that he used the wrong email adres and add that emailadres to the list of allowed posters.
- a non-list member who wants to ask something. action: until now I approve it and send the poster a email to inform them how to subcribe.
Problem; if the do not subcribe the do not recieve a responds. I think posters only wants to ask something and not understand the idea of a mailing list.
Is it better to reject the posting and inform them the have to subcribe? The can see it like a insult if you reject.
The posting can come from a non-wikipedian who only wants to send a email to "wikipedia".
So far a know only the german and dutch wikipedia has a emailadres where visitors can send a question to.
On Wed, 21 May 2003, Giskart wrote:
Mostly there are to types of postings;
- a list member who has used a emailadres where he is not subcribed whit.
action: approve posting and inform the user that he used the wrong email adres and add that emailadres to the list of allowed posters.
- a non-list member who wants to ask something.
action: until now I approve it and send the poster a email to inform them how to subcribe.
Problem; if the do not subcribe the do not recieve a responds. I think posters only wants to ask something and not understand the idea of a mailing list.
Is it better to reject the posting and inform them the have to subcribe? The can see it like a insult if you reject.
I think it would be a valid way of acting to just post to the list - the archives are publicly available, so someone could in theory send their mail, and read the answers that way. I don't know whether anyone actually does it, but the possibility exists.
Andre Engels
Andre Engels engels@uni-koblenz.de wrote in news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0305211654340.17622-100000@ponnuki.uni-koblenz.de:
I think it would be a valid way of acting to just post to the list - the archives are publicly available, so someone could in theory send their mail, and read the answers that way. I don't know whether anyone actually does it, but the possibility exists.
Andre Engels
I think a lot of people do that, read from the archive. But if a poster does not understand that you have to subcribe to the list to post I do not think he will find the list archives.
Salut,
There is a probleme. I had get the sysop status on the french wikipedia, that's ok, it was planned. By the same time, I had get the same status on the english one, it was not planned ! Ok, I don't use my superpowers on en: but it seems a little strange too me.
Do someone has a brillant idea ?
Merci d'avance ( thanks in advance ? )
Alvaro
Salut,
There is a probleme. I had get the sysop status on the french wikipedia, that's ok, it was planned. By the same time, I had get the same status on the english one, it was not planned ! Ok, I don't use my superpowers on en: but it seems a little strange too me.
Do someone has a brillant idea ?
Well, I don't know who changed your status on en:, but I've reset it.
Regards,
Erik
Erik Moeller wrote:
Salut,
There is a probleme. I had get the sysop status on the french wikipedia, that's ok, it was planned. By the same time, I had get the same status on the english one, it was not planned ! Ok, I don't use my superpowers on en: but it seems a little strange too me.
Do someone has a brillant idea ?
Well, I don't know who changed your status on en:, but I've reset it.
Regards,
Erik
Thanks for your *quick* intervention . You don't know who changed my status on en: ... there is no historic ?
À bientôt
Alvaro
Alvaro-
Thanks for your *quick* intervention . You don't know who changed my status on en: ... there is no historic ?
Nope, not as far as I know. Sysop status is assigned via direct queries on the database. Somebody probably picked the wrong DB by accident when running the query.
Regards,
Erik
On Wed, 21 May 2003, Erik Moeller wrote:
Alvaro-
Thanks for your *quick* intervention . You don't know who changed my status on en: ... there is no historic ?
Nope, not as far as I know. Sysop status is assigned via direct queries on the database. Somebody probably picked the wrong DB by accident when running the query.
It's possible I might have done it by accident, but I don't remember doing so. Which, I guess, is what "by accident" means. ;)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
I am probably more likely the culprit... This is just the sort of mistake I am prone to make.
Jason
Brion Vibber wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2003, Erik Moeller wrote:
Alvaro-
Thanks for your *quick* intervention . You don't know who changed my status on en: ... there is no historic ?
Nope, not as far as I know. Sysop status is assigned via direct queries on the database. Somebody probably picked the wrong DB by accident when running the query.
It's possible I might have done it by accident, but I don't remember doing so. Which, I guess, is what "by accident" means. ;)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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