Hi all, A bit of brainstorming here. Our two basic tools to help editors track changes to articles they have an interest in are the watchlist and 'my contributions' lists.
Summarised: Watchlist: Show me every change recently made to any article I've noted as "interesting", most recent first. My contributions: Show me every change I've recently made, and tell me whether anyone has touched it since then, sorted by when I made the change.
However, what I really want is: Show me every change made to any article I've worked on recently. Let me "approve" changes so they don't show up again.
It's kind of half way between: the "my contributions" is primarily interesting for the presence or absence of "(top)" which means that no one has touched it - but it doesn't show who changed it, when, or how often. Watchlist is more detailed, but quickly gets out of control and you end up seeing changes on articles you haven't touched in months, but haven't bothered to remove from your list.
I gather that there exists a mechanism for 'approving' changes at the personal level (I don't want/need anyone else to see which changes I've approved). If that were combined with a way of sorting the watchlist in order of the last time I made a change to that article, this would alost satisfy the need I see (apart from the watchlist getting out of control...). Is this possible?
To be quite specific, let's imagine there are three articles, A, B and C, which I've worked on in that order - C most recently. However, since I've worked on them, editors have made changes to them in the order B, C, A. Watchlist currently would show them:
A C B.
I would like to see them: C B A
Does anyone agree that this would be a more useful and relevant way of showing changes? Are there further enhancements one could add to quickly see what's changed since the last time one checked - within the narrow sphere of one's own interests?
Steve
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 05:53:31PM +0200, Steve Bennett wrote:
However, what I really want is: Show me every change made to any article I've worked on recently. Let me "approve" changes so they don't show up again.
It's kind of half way between: the "my contributions" is primarily interesting for the presence or absence of "(top)" which means that no one has touched it - but it doesn't show who changed it, when, or how often. Watchlist is more detailed, but quickly gets out of control and you end up seeing changes on articles you haven't touched in months, but haven't bothered to remove from your list.
I gather that there exists a mechanism for 'approving' changes at the personal level (I don't want/need anyone else to see which changes I've approved). If that were combined with a way of sorting the watchlist in order of the last time I made a change to that article, this would alost satisfy the need I see (apart from the watchlist getting out of control...). Is this possible?
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Does anyone agree that this would be a more useful and relevant way of showing changes? Are there further enhancements one could add to quickly see what's changed since the last time one checked - within the narrow sphere of one's own interests?
You're right, but I rather suspect the answer you're going to get from people who've been here longer than me is "yes, but that might encourage people to feel like they 'own' articles, and we want to avoid that".
Which has some credence to it, as I had to have pointed out to me during the Hurricane Katrina live TV coverage links wars last year.
cheers, -- jra
On 8/21/06, Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com wrote:
You're right, but I rather suspect the answer you're going to get from people who've been here longer than me is "yes, but that might encourage people to feel like they 'own' articles, and we want to avoid that".
People behave like that already. Let them behave like that efficiently. Fwiw, I'm generally talking about monitoring a large number of pages with very few changes (1 a week or less), which are quite susceptible to spam and nonsense.
Steve
On 8/21/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone agree that this would be a more useful and relevant way of showing changes?
Yes. I've had the same idea for a long time.
Fredrik
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