I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois identifies as being in the netblock HETZNER-RZ10 operated by Hetzner Online AG.
The wikivoyage.com domain itself has a last-modified date of 2012-10-14.
Even more puzzlingly, the PTR record for 188.40.41.16 currently points to wikivoyage.org.
Can anyone cast any light on this? Is this officially sanctioned by the wikivoyage/Wikimedia communities?
Neil
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Neil Harris neil@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois identifies as being in the netblock HETZNER-RZ10 operated by Hetzner Online AG.
I guess this should be the wikivoyage eV servers.
(...)
Even more puzzlingly, the PTR record for 188.40.41.16 currently points to wikivoyage.org.
This is probably the legacy configuration from wikivoyage eV servers.
Note PTR isn't involved in the process to redirect web requests from domain name to the server, only A records (or AAAA in IPv6 world).
Can anyone cast any light on this? Is this officially sanctioned by the wikivoyage/Wikimedia communities?
So in a nutshell, Wikivoyage were hosted on Wikivoyage eV servers and it seems they registered wikivoyage.com too.
This domain hasn't been involved in the transfer operation.
You can contact Stefan Fussan at vorstand@wikivoyage-ev.org (I'm ccing this mail) to get more information about that.
What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com?
-- Best Regards, Sébastien Santoro aka Dereckson http://www.dereckson.be/
In the meanwhile, in such cases, it's useful to add the domain to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors and also to the Internal wiki relevant page https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=747627&oldid=441648 (or whatever page replaced it).
Nemo
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/11/12 12:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote:
What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com?
That seems the appropiate route.
They only recently acquired the domain and there's still a transfer lock on it. It currently incorrectly points to the -old site; I've requested that they change this but it's not been done yet.
Erik
On 28/11/12 08:52, Erik Moeller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/11/12 12:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote:
What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com?
That seems the appropiate route.
They only recently acquired the domain and there's still a transfer lock on it. It currently incorrectly points to the -old site; I've requested that they change this but it's not been done yet.
They could set it up to use our nameservers (ns0, ns1 and ns2 .wikimedia.org), then we could manage its subdomains ourselves.
-- Tim Starling
On 27/11/12 11:45, Sébastien Santoro wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Neil Harris neil@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
I visited en.wikivoyage.com by mistake, and dicocvered that en.wikivoyage.com appears to serve up Wikivoyage-old's content, but from 188.40.41.16, which whois identifies as being in the netblock HETZNER-RZ10 operated by Hetzner Online AG.
I guess this should be the wikivoyage eV servers.
(...) Even more puzzlingly, the PTR record for 188.40.41.16 currently points to wikivoyage.org.
This is probably the legacy configuration from wikivoyage eV servers.
Ah. That would make sense, and explains the PTR record.
Note PTR isn't involved in the process to redirect web requests from domain name to the server, only A records (or AAAA in IPv6 world).
Yes, I know this. ;)
Can anyone cast any light on this? Is this officially sanctioned by the wikivoyage/Wikimedia communities?
So in a nutshell, Wikivoyage were hosted on Wikivoyage eV servers and it seems they registered wikivoyage.com too.
This domain hasn't been involved in the transfer operation.
You can contact Stefan Fussan at vorstand@wikivoyage-ev.org (I'm ccing this mail) to get more information about that.
What would you suggest exactly? Than wikivoyage.com is transfered to the fundation and redirect to wikivoyage.org, like we do with wikipedia.com?
Yes, that all makes sense, and your suggestion seems to me to be the best way to proceed.
I can't see any problem here, given the above.
Thanks for clarifying things,
Neil
Hello,
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
Will Wikivoyage be under SUL? If so, when?
Wikivoyage is already under SUL.
2012/11/28 Sébastien Santoro dereckson@espace-win.org
Hello,
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
Will Wikivoyage be under SUL? If so, when?
Wikivoyage is already under SUL.
You are right, my fault was to come from .com. It works when using .org directly.
Bináris
This should now be fixed, updates may take a while to propagate. (wikivoyage.com will redirect to .org.)
Cheers, Erik
On 29/11/12 23:34, Erik Moeller wrote:
This should now be fixed, updates may take a while to propagate. (wikivoyage.com will redirect to .org.)
Cheers, Erik
Very nearly...
currently gives me a page saying:
[Wikimedia Foundation logo]
Domain not configured
This domain points to a Wikimedia Foundation server, but is not configured on this server. That’s all we know.
Cheers,
-- Neil
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Neil Harris neil@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
currently gives me a page saying:
[Wikimedia Foundation logo]
Domain not configured
This domain points to a Wikimedia Foundation server, but is not configured on this server. That’s all we know.
Confirmed, I get the same body you pasted. Headers are below.
-Jeremy
$ curl -vs wikivoyage.com * About to connect() to wikivoyage.com port 80 (#0) * Trying 208.80.152.219... connected * Connected to wikivoyage.com (208.80.152.219) port 80 (#0)
GET / HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: curl/7.21.0 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.21.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8o zlib/1.2.3.4 libidn/1.15 libssh2/1.2.6 Host: wikivoyage.com Accept: */*
< HTTP/1.1 200 OK < Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:15:09 GMT < Server: Apache < Last-Modified: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:20:14 GMT < ETag: "36b-4c8f943a2d780" < Accept-Ranges: bytes < X-Cache: MISS from sq65.wikimedia.org < X-Cache-Lookup: MISS from sq65.wikimedia.org:3128 < Age: 4363 < X-Cache: HIT from sq73.wikimedia.org < X-Cache-Lookup: HIT from sq73.wikimedia.org:80 < Content-Type: text/html < Transfer-Encoding: chunked
On 30/11/2012 00:30, Jeremy Baron wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Neil Harris neil@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
currently gives me a page saying:
[Wikimedia Foundation logo]
Domain not configured
This domain points to a Wikimedia Foundation server, but is not configured on this server. That’s all we know.
Confirmed, I get the same body you pasted. Headers are below.
Works over here. May have been fixed between your email and now.
KTC
Hi,
we just added this to our DNS this afternoon, before it was still pointing to the old servers. Must have cached it exactly between me adding it to DNS and right before adding the Apache config. It should work now. Hit "shift + reload" in your browser to make sure it is not locally cached. Addtionally i purged the URL from our Squid cache.
Best regards,
Daniel
On 30/11/12 01:04, Daniel Zahn wrote:
Hi,
we just added this to our DNS this afternoon, before it was still pointing to the old servers. Must have cached it exactly between me adding it to DNS and right before adding the Apache config. It should work now. Hit "shift + reload" in your browser to make sure it is not locally cached. Addtionally i purged the URL from our Squid cache.
Best regards,
Daniel
It works for me now.
Thanks,
-- Neil
WORKSFORME
Thank you for the trouble!
Matthew Bowker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Matthewrbowker
On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
This should now be fixed, updates may take a while to propagate. (wikivoyage.com will redirect to .org.)
Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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