The following changes will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on Tuesday 09:00 UTC (01:00 PST):
* Backport of feature to "Allow preferences that need not be rendered in Special:Preferences"[1] to 1.21wmf7 * Update of extensions Translate[2] and UniversalLanguageSelector[3] to master in 1.21wmf7 * Disable extensions Narayam[4] and WebFonts[5] on all wikis with extension Translate enabled (see list below). Functionality of these extensions is superseded by that of UniversalLanguageSelector. * Enable extension UniversalLanguageSelector to be enabled on all wikis with extension Translate enabled (see list below)
UniversalLanguageSelector will be enabled with: * $wgULSEnableAnon set to false (see bug 41451[6] for details) * $wgULSGeoService = false;
List of wikis with extension Translate enabled and the changes besides the language selector: * bewikimedia (adds web fonts and input methods) * incubatorwiki * mediawikiwiki * metawiki (also adds web fonts) * outreachwiki (adds web fonts and input methods) * testwiki (also adds input methods) * wikidatawiki (also adds input methods) * wikimania2012wiki (also adds web fonts and input methods) * wikimania2013wiki (also adds web fonts and input methods)
[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/37395/ [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Universal_Language_Selector [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam [5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFonts [6] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451
Cheers!
On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 12:35 +0100, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) wrote:
- Disable extensions Narayam[4] and WebFonts[5] on all wikis with
extension Translate enabled (see list below). Functionality of these extensions is superseded by that of UniversalLanguageSelector.
Thanks for the notice.
Is there a vague deadline when to have Translate + ULS deployed to all wikis that currently use Narayam + WebFonts (if that question makes sense)?
andre
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Is there a vague deadline when to have Translate + ULS deployed to all wikis that currently use Narayam + WebFonts (if that question makes sense)?
There are no plans for widespread deployment of the Translate extension, i.e. beyond multi lingual projects that request it.
The end goal is to have ULS deployed on all Wikimedia wikis, for all users. That may take a while, though, because caching challenges in squid and/or Varnish have to be tackled first.
Cheers!
Hoi, Is there any idea when the ULS will be enabled on all projects ?? ULS is said to be a prerequisite for making webfonts available.. This is of particular relevance for the +/- 7% of the USA population ie some 20 million people who stand to benefit from the Open-Dyslexic font because of their dyslexia.
What priority do the caching challenges have given the huge amount of people who stand to benefit in the USA (never mind the people in the rest of the world) ?? Thanks, GerardM
On 14 January 2013 11:15, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazeland@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Andre Klapper <aklapper@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Is there a vague deadline when to have Translate + ULS deployed to all wikis that currently use Narayam + WebFonts (if that question makes sense)?
There are no plans for widespread deployment of the Translate extension, i.e. beyond multi lingual projects that request it.
The end goal is to have ULS deployed on all Wikimedia wikis, for all users. That may take a while, though, because caching challenges in squid and/or Varnish have to be tackled first.
Cheers!
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Hi Gerard. Interesting to hear from you.
Op 14 jan. 2013 om 13:06 heeft Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
Is there any idea when the ULS will be enabled on all projects ?
No. "As soon as is realistic." There are no hard targets that are worth communicating.
What priority do the caching challenges have given the huge amount of people who stand to benefit in the USA (never mind the people in the rest of the world) ??
I was told that "the Varnish solution" will be explored by someone right after the data centre migration. Someone else is working on getting a squid patch together and get that submitted to the squid cache project for a short term solution. No estimated times to fix their either.
Siebrand
Siebrand,
Mobile and Fundraising have been scheming for some time about various ways to utilize what Varnish offers which may have been what you've heard about. Mobile is further along the path than Fundraising in terms of utilizing Edge Side Includes (ESI) -- but their approach as I understand it is not yet portable to extensions beyond MobileFrontend. Ideally myself or Adam will be able to start working on ESI wrt CentralNotice (and therefore extensions to the rest of the site) sometime in the next 2 months but I certainly wouldn't wait for us. Still - do you have 30 minutes sometime this week where we could bash heads together and bring each other up to date on requirements/needs that sort of thing?
I just created a document at [1] which started to outline our vision for where Fundraising is going (but it's very rough). [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice/Caching_Overhaul_--_Ed...
~Walker
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) < smazeland@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Gerard. Interesting to hear from you.
Op 14 jan. 2013 om 13:06 heeft Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
Is there any idea when the ULS will be enabled on all projects ?
No. "As soon as is realistic." There are no hard targets that are worth communicating.
What priority do the caching challenges have given the huge amount of people who stand to benefit in the USA (never mind the people in the rest of the world) ??
I was told that "the Varnish solution" will be explored by someone right after the data centre migration. Someone else is working on getting a squid patch together and get that submitted to the squid cache project for a short term solution. No estimated times to fix their either.
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Walker mwalker@wikimedia.orgwrote:
do you have 30 minutes sometime this week where we could bash heads together and bring each other up to date on requirements/needs that sort of thing?
Thanks for the reply, Matt. I'll follow-up off list.
Cheers!
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