Anthere wrote:
Hello Mike,
Apologies, but it was unclear to me whether there is a wiki page set up for the 2007 hacking days. If there is no such page, can you set up one so that it is easier to follow plans and discuss programmes ?
One feedback I had from hacking days 2006 was that it was necessary to have more cool time in small groups, and less "academic-type" presentations in front of 20 people. In short, they need not only a room with some presentations going on, but also a nice and cosy place to sit, with drinks etc...
Indeed there was a strong feeling that the hacking days were overproduced last year, with too many outsiders, too heavy scheduling, too many talks.
The hacking days are meant to be informal and, hopefully, productive. :) Some really nice points did get made in the middle of it, but I and others found the overall experience rather frustrating. In contrast, in 2005 we really weren't organized enough, and while there was good socializing which helped build team spirit we didn't come out with much directly productive.
My recommendation: don't invite too many people, don't have lots of talks. Talks would be more appropriate for a tech track during Wikimania proper.
A few small workshop-type sessions to let people strategize, socialize, roadmap, experiment, and accept tasks to work on for the coming months would be a lot nicer, and would better justify having a distinct "hacking days" period before/after the main conference.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Dear Mr. Brion et al,
Actually we would like to attract hackers to accomplish some real stuffs in hacking days. I has personally attended to YAPC::Taipei and felt really good to join some developments directly. Somehow we are worrying about the amount of developers of Wikimedia side projects, such as creating applications of the new Wikipedia API, that's why we suggest to have a contest. And yes, the cooking, oh, I meant hacking group should be not too large. There are a lot of cafe in Taipei with wireless (and bears) and keep opening to 4 AM, I think this kind of places is good for night(jet-lag?) hackings. :)
Best Regards, Mike
Brion Vibber wrote:
My recommendation: don't invite too many people, don't have lots of talks. Talks would be more appropriate for a tech track during Wikimania proper.
A few small workshop-type sessions to let people strategize, socialize, roadmap, experiment, and accept tasks to work on for the coming months would be a lot nicer, and would better justify having a distinct "hacking days" period before/after the main conference.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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Dear all,
The funder of Wikiwyg.net, Ingy, has just comfirmed that he will be the chef of Wikiwyg Cookhouse in Hacking Days of Wikimania 2007.
We hope this activity can be both comfortable and efficient, as Mr. Brion and Mr. Starling's advises. Therefore we plan to find a Cafe with WiFi, beers and foods to be the playground.
We invite you joining the discussion on http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planning/Hacking_days and its Talk page.
Thank you very much.
Best Regards, Mike
Dear all,
We've read Mr. Brion Vibber's message on the planning page of hacking days, also noticed an anonymous comment on the talk page.
We totally understand that the hacking days should be focused and productive. Unfortunately, we have not received many practical advises and discussions. That's why the plan had been inaccurate.
After all, one idea that may be crazy came into our minds: shall we just plan for logistics and leave the actual events to MediaWiki developers? That is, what will be done in that two days of hacking should be decided by core developers themselves?
Please provides us more suggestions, thank you. :)
Sincerely, Mike
Hi!
After all, one idea that may be crazy came into our minds: shall we just plan for logistics and leave the actual events to MediaWiki developers? That is, what will be done in that two days of hacking should be decided by core developers themselves?
Terrific idea! \o/
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