dear all,
as some of you may already know, the GLAMwiki Toolset Project, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project, is a collaboration between Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia France and Europeana, with the goal of providing a set of tools to get materials from GLAM institutions onto Wikimedia Commons in a way that reuse can easily be tracked, and that Commons materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of the original GLAM or even other GLAMs.
as part of our initial goal of creating a GLAM Upload System, we are looking to gather Wikimedia community input on the proposed architecture and technologies. if you have time and interest, please take a look and let us know your thoughts, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project/Request_for_Comments....
with kind regards, dan
On 09/20/2012 04:34 PM, dan entous wrote:
dear all,
as some of you may already know, the GLAMwiki Toolset Project, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project, is a collaboration between Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia France and Europeana, with the goal of providing a set of tools to get materials from GLAM institutions onto Wikimedia Commons in a way that reuse can easily be tracked, and that Commons materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of the original GLAM or even other GLAMs.
as part of our initial goal of creating a GLAM Upload System, we are looking to gather Wikimedia community input on the proposed architecture and technologies. if you have time and interest, please take a look and let us know your thoughts, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project/Request_for_Comments....
with kind regards, dan
Hi Dan,
I have a few questions about the choice of the Zend Framework: * Why exactly using the Zend Framework? * Do we really need such a dependency? * Do we have this framework installed on the Wikimedia servers? * If "no", is that not a problem?
Regards Emmanuel
On 09/20/2012 04:34 PM, dan entous wrote: dear all,
as some of you may already know, the GLAMwiki Toolset Project, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project, is a collaboration between Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia France and Europeana, with the goal of providing a set of tools to get materials from GLAM institutions onto Wikimedia Commons in a way that reuse can easily be tracked, and that Commons materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of the original GLAM or even other GLAMs.
as part of our initial goal of creating a GLAM Upload System, we are looking to gather Wikimedia community input on the proposed architecture and technologies. if you have time and interest, please take a look and let us know your thoughts, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project/Request_for_Comments....
with kind regards, dan
On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Hi Dan,
I have a few questions about the choice of the Zend Framework:
- Why exactly using the Zend Framework?
would like to use an open-source mvc framework that is used widely, has strong community support, and several modules that may be used for current and future development rather than develop or use a custom or less widely used mvc framework
- Do we really need such a dependency?
the code will be dependent on some type of mvc framework - either custom, less or widely used
- Do we have this framework installed on the Wikimedia servers?
not sure, but the gwtoolset will be used on a wikimedia labs instance, not on a wikimedia server. the gwtoolset will have a browser ui that allows glams to upload their metadata, match it to mediawiki templates and then upload the result to commons.wikimedia.org using the mediawiki api
- If "no", is that not a problem?
Regards Emmanuel
On 09/25/2012 11:22 AM, dan entous wrote:
On 09/20/2012 04:34 PM, dan entous wrote: dear all,
as some of you may already know, the GLAMwiki Toolset Project, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project, is a collaboration between Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia France and Europeana, with the goal of providing a set of tools to get materials from GLAM institutions onto Wikimedia Commons in a way that reuse can easily be tracked, and that Commons materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of the original GLAM or even other GLAMs.
as part of our initial goal of creating a GLAM Upload System, we are looking to gather Wikimedia community input on the proposed architecture and technologies. if you have time and interest, please take a look and let us know your thoughts, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project/Request_for_Comments....
with kind regards, dan
On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Hi Dan,
I have a few questions about the choice of the Zend Framework:
- Why exactly using the Zend Framework?
would like to use an open-source mvc framework that is used widely, has strong community support, and several modules that may be used for current and future development rather than develop or use a custom or less widely used mvc framework
- Do we really need such a dependency?
the code will be dependent on some type of mvc framework - either custom, less or widely used
- Do we have this framework installed on the Wikimedia servers?
not sure, but the gwtoolset will be used on a wikimedia labs instance, not on a wikimedia server. the gwtoolset will have a browser ui that allows glams to upload their metadata, match it to mediawiki templates and then upload the result to commons.wikimedia.org using the mediawiki api
I thought the lab instance was only an incubation environment and that the final goal was to put gwtoolset on the WMF prod. servers. Isn't it?
Emmanuel
On 09/20/2012 04:34 PM, dan entous wrote: dear all,
as some of you may already know, the GLAMwiki Toolset Project, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project, is a collaboration between Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia France and Europeana, with the goal of providing a set of tools to get materials from GLAM institutions onto Wikimedia Commons in a way that reuse can easily be tracked, and that Commons materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of the original GLAM or even other GLAMs.
as part of our initial goal of creating a GLAM Upload System, we are looking to gather Wikimedia community input on the proposed architecture and technologies. if you have time and interest, please take a look and let us know your thoughts, http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Toolset_project/Request_for_Comments....
with kind regards, dan
On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: Hi Dan,
I have a few questions about the choice of the Zend Framework:
- Why exactly using the Zend Framework?
would like to use an open-source mvc framework that is used widely, has strong community support, and several modules that may be used for current and future development rather than develop or use a custom or less widely used mvc framework
- Do we really need such a dependency?
the code will be dependent on some type of mvc framework - either custom, less or widely used
- Do we have this framework installed on the Wikimedia servers?
not sure, but the gwtoolset will be used on a wikimedia labs instance, not on a wikimedia server. the gwtoolset will have a browser ui that allows glams to upload their metadata, match it to mediawiki templates and then upload the result to commons.wikimedia.org using the mediawiki api
I thought the lab instance was only an incubation environment and that the final goal was to put gwtoolset on the WMF prod. servers. Isn't it?
the final goal, as far as i understand it, is to have it run as its own application in its own environment, similar to the way some applications are running on the current toolserver. i was told that instead of using the toolserver we should use a wikimedia labs instance. would love to hear if this is not the intended outcome.
Emmanuel
On 09/25/2012 12:17 PM, dan entous wrote:
I thought the lab instance was only an incubation environment and that the final goal was to put gwtoolset on the WMF prod. servers. Isn't it?
the final goal, as far as i understand it, is to have it run as its own application in its own environment, similar to the way some applications are running on the current toolserver. i was told that instead of using the toolserver we should use a wikimedia labs instance. would love to hear if this is not the intended outcome.
Hi Dan
Sad news :(
Having as goal to integrate (at the end) the gwt extension in WMF prod. env. would: * help to involve the rest of the community of developers - at least for the code review process. * improve the global quality of code of the tool by applying WMF high dev/op standards. * remove the work (for the gwt team) of maintaining the environment running (for example avoid scalability issues...) * offer a better visibility to the tool. * simply the understanding for the end-user by using a commons.wikimedia.org builtin solution (instead of a third part tool)
Regarding the size and the purpose of the project, we should IMO try to include that goal in the list of outcomes of the gwt project.
Emmanuel
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