To everybody who thinks it's a great idea to take machines out of the dsh group "apaches": PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
When the machines get put back into apache service by some other person, they have OUTDATED INVALID CODE including OUTDATED INVALID CONFIGURATION which leads to ARTICLES SAVED TO THE WRONG DATABASE SERVER. Of course this wouldn't be so bad if we had THE BROKEN OLD MASTER SET TO READ-ONLY.
Thanks.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Jan 19, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
When the machines get put back into apache service by some other person, they have OUTDATED INVALID CODE including OUTDATED INVALID CONFIGURATION which leads to ARTICLES SAVED TO THE WRONG DATABASE SERVER. Of course this wouldn't be so bad if we had THE BROKEN OLD MASTER SET TO READ-ONLY.
I've set suda's mysqld to read-only, and also shut it down for good measure as nothing should be using it until it's been resynchronized with the civilized world (ariel and friends).
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote in gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical:
To everybody who thinks it's a great idea to take machines out of the dsh group "apaches": PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
Please don't use the dsh apache group for apache-graceful-all then. It makes apache get restarted on machines it shouldn't be running on.
Maybe we need 'apaches' and 'mediawiki-installation'. Then a-g-a can use the former and scap the latter.
When the machines get put back into apache service by some other person, they have OUTDATED INVALID CODE including OUTDATED INVALID CONFIGURATION which leads to ARTICLES SAVED TO THE WRONG DATABASE SERVER. Of course this wouldn't be so bad if we had THE BROKEN OLD MASTER SET TO READ-ONLY.
Would you like a new caps lock with that, sir?
Thanks.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Kate :)
Hi,
With the possibility of mediawiki third party extensions, and the upcoming new and improved hook infrastructure, how does the mediawiki developer community feel about starting a mediawiki "collective", modeled on the plone community's hugely successful product collective (www.sf.net/projects/collective)
This is a separate project in sourceforge which would intentionally allow a very large number of developers each working on their own sub-projects. There are issues with quality control, much like there are with the wikipedia, but having a central clearing house for extensions (as well as all sorts of tools) might encourage more development along these lines.
We have recently developed a javascript based category browser. It won't work on the wikipedia itself, since that site has far more categories, but on smaller sized intranet installs, such a tool is invaluable.
I would be happy to request the project from sourceforge, but was wondering what other people thought about this idea.
best, /Jonah
On Jan 19, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Kate Turner wrote:
Please don't use the dsh apache group for apache-graceful-all then. It makes apache get restarted on machines it shouldn't be running on.
IMO not using an apache publically should be a matter for the load balancer's configuration; relying on a sometimes-apache machine to not have port 80 open at any given moment is a dangerous strategy.
Maybe we need 'apaches' and 'mediawiki-installation'. Then a-g-a can use the former and scap the latter.
That might be wise, too.
Would you like a new caps lock with that, sir?
NO THANKS MY CURRENT ONE WORKS FINE ITS PRETTY AWESOME YOU SHOULD TRY IT ALL I NEED NOW IS WHITE TEXT ON A BLUE BACKGROUND AND I AM ALL ATARI RETRO
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote in gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical:
On Jan 19, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Kate Turner wrote:
Please don't use the dsh apache group for apache-graceful-all then. It makes apache get restarted on machines it shouldn't be running on.
IMO not using an apache publically should be a matter for the load balancer's configuration; relying on a sometimes-apache machine to not have port 80 open at any given moment is a dangerous strategy.
Quite. But we can probably all agree that mistakes and misconfigurations do happen. Better safe than sorry, &c.
Maybe we need 'apaches' and 'mediawiki-installation'. Then a-g-a can use the former and scap the latter.
That might be wise, too.
And so done.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Kate.
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