Hello andy,
This is not the right mailgroup if you write in german.
So anyways I try my best in german ;):
Wenn du dein Wiki auf mehereren Sprachen machen willst würde ich nicht für jede Sprache
ein Wikipedia installieren sondern für jede Sprache ein namespace definieren.
Diesbezüglich wirst du eine Menge Informationen auf meta Wiki finden.
Die Images sind soweit ich das sehe nicht in der Datenbank sondern unter
<wikiroot>/images zu finden. Auf der Datenbank wirst du nur die links finden Bild
-> Artikel
Aber mehrere Namespace sind meiner Meinung nach sicher die sauberste Lösung für sowas.
Falls du dennoch nicht diesen Weg gehen willst, solltest du auf einer Datenbank sämtliche
Daten speichern und prefix bei den tables verwenden bsp:
En_page
It_page
De_page
Etc. und den Code anpassen damit die image table überall gleich verlinkt ist. Dies ist
jedoch nicht unriskant und mit viel mehrarbeit verbunden da dir niemand versichern kann
das das Datenbank design so bleibt wie es jetzt ist.
Habe auch viel mit PHP für Wiki gecoded und beim Wechsel von 1.4 auf 1.5 wo sich sehr viel
am Datenbankdesign geändert hatte grossen Aufwand hatte.
Gruss,
Flo
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4. Re: Inactive wikis (Mark Williamson)
5. Re: Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was Experiment on new
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6. Stupid Mediawiki Tricks: logical templates (David Gerard)
7. Re: Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was Experiment
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pages and GFDL) (Erik Moeller)
8. Re: Account creation spike on enwiki after anonymous page
creation got disabled (Dori)
9. upgrade error messages (FxParlant)
10. Re: Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was Experiment on new
pages and GFDL) (Tels)
11. Wie gleichzeitig mehrere Wikis betreiben (Arena Andrea)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:52:39 -0500
From: Aron Rubin <arubin(a)atl.lmco.com>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Hooking
To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
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Why are there so few hooks in MediaWiki? Is this part of an
effort to be
lean or have you not gotten around to it?
Aron
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:37:44 -0600
From: Peter Danenberg <pcd(a)wikitex.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Hooking
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <20051209213744.GA23886(a)wikitex.org>
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Why are there so few hooks in MediaWiki?
Imbalanced forward pack, I'm afraid; locks and flankers
are in order, but the front row needs some work.
In good sadness, though, did you have something like
Apache's bucket brigades in mind?
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:42:59 +0000
From: Amgine <amgine(a)saewyc.net>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Inactive wikis
To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
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There is a list of inactive wikis which should be locked at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inactive_wikis which are currently spam
traps, with many more to be added. I was wondering if this was still a
Steward privilege, or if we need to ask developers to lock these?
Amgine
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:47:07 -0700
From: Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Inactive wikis
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
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These wikis are regularly monitored for vandalism.
Mark
On 09/12/05, Amgine <amgine(a)saewyc.net> wrote:
There is a list of inactive wikis which should be
locked at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inactive_wikis which are
currently spam
traps, with many more to be added. I was
wondering if this
was still a
Steward privilege, or if we need to ask
developers to lock these?
Amgine
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:53:13 +0100
From: Tels <nospam-abuse(a)bloodgate.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was
Experiment on new pages and GFDL)
To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
Cc: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Message-ID: <200512092353.37230(a)bloodgate.com>
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Moin David,
On Friday 09 December 2005 21:58, David Gerard wrote:
Tels wrote:
[snipabit]
Yep!
> The most FAQ was "How do I start a new article?" followed
by "And why
is this
so complicated?", closely followed by "How do I add a
headline again?"
That's specifically why I put how to make a section in that in the
example ;-)
I did a radio interview on Wikipedia yesterday. I actually tried to
lure casual editors to feel free to edit.
It'd be nice if anon contributors could start articles again. If
regulars don't like getting a template, perhaps it could be
on just for
anon editors.
I think anon users rights have nothing to do with this issue
of whether
the edit box should be pre-filled or not, and whether it
should be easier
to create new articles :)
(IMHO anon edits should be disallowed entirely, but this is just my
private opinion which doesn't carry much weight and/or might be
wrong/impractical/impolite etc :)
> Especially in-frequent contributors tend to
forget these
things very
> quick and since the computer should help the
humans and not vice
> versa, I finally patched my local Mediawiki installation
to fix this
issue.
Everyone's been happy since :)
Please submit the patch! (Is there a bug for this yet?)
Actually, I just added one new link to the toolbox on the
left, which goes
to a HTML page with a form entry on a webserver, which
bounces the user
back to the wiki. I am sure it is possible to create a specialpage
(Specialpages:NewArticle?) that does the same, but the
external form was
easier for me.
The disadvantage of my solution is that you need to be
already logged in
for the form to work, otherwise you get the "please login
first" message,
and since clicking "log me in" on that page loses the "where you came
from" (which is a bug), the user will then be on the main page.
Best wishes,
Tels
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:33:04 +0000
From: David Gerard <fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Stupid Mediawiki Tricks: logical templates
To: wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org
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[[:en:Category:If Templates]]
[[:en:Category:Boolean Templates]]
Check out some of the code in them, too, but make sure you
haven't eaten
first.
The perpetrators of this l33tn3ss are trying to gut [[:en:WP:AUM]] by
consensus, because everyone knows database performance and computer
science in general can be determined by voting. Or maybe it can't.
What would the Stupid Mediawiki Tricks in these things do to the
database and the cache structure? If it's as bad as I suspect
it would,
could some of you please stop by [[:en:WT:AFD]] and describe
reality to
them?
- d.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:01:36 +0100
From: Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was
Experiment on new pages and GFDL)
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
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Tels:
Actually, I just added one new link to the
toolbox on the
left, which goes
to a HTML page with a form entry on a webserver,
which
bounces the user
back to the wiki. I am sure it is possible to
create a specialpage
(Specialpages:NewArticle?) that does the same, but the
external form was
easier for me.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Inputbox
This has been active on the Wikimedia wikis for quite a while. I
originally created it for Wikinews, but it's used in many different
places now. It supports preloading text.
Erik
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:30:58 -0600
From: Dori <slowpoke(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Account creation spike on enwiki after
anonymous page creation got disabled
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
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On 12/9/05, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I made a plot[1] of account creations on the
English Wikipedia based
on Newuserlog data, there has been quite a spike since
anonymous page
creation got disabled, although the numbers are a
bit
inaccurate since
it has also been in the press lately.
[1]:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Account_cre
ations_on_the_English_Wikipedia.png
Time to start selling low UID accounts on eBay. Just in time for the
fundraising too.
Dori
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:09:41 +0100
From: FxParlant <f-x.p(a)laposte.net>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] upgrade error messages
To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
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Hello,
just for information. Upgrading might fail for duplicate
content on some
fields who become a primary key.
Unfortunately, the 1.5 install isn't as verbose as 1.4 install:
***1.5 error message***
Making img_name the primary key... Query "ALTER TABLE image
ADD PRIMARY
KEY img_name (img_name)" failed with error code "".
***1.4 error message***
Making img_name the primary key... Query "ALTER TABLE image
ADD PRIMARY
KEY img_name (img_name)" failed with error code "Duplicate entry
'README' for key 1".
I suggest for users who have a duplicate content making a crash of 1.5
install, to revert their database and try the install with a
1.4. Then,
correct the database by suppressing one of the duplicate content, and
redo the 1.5 install.
I hope this is already in bugzilla (if not, maybe someone used to
expressing the bug could make it) and the install process in
1.6 are as
verbose as in 1.4.
François
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:11:03 +0100
From: Tels <nospam-abuse(a)bloodgate.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Preformatted blank articles? (was
Experiment on new pages and GFDL)
To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
Cc: Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de>
Message-ID: <200512101211.14134(a)bloodgate.com>
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Moin,
On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:01, Erik Moeller wrote:
> Tels:
>
Actually, I just added one new link to the
toolbox on the
left, which
> goes to a HTML page with a form entry on a
webserver,
which bounces
the user
back to the wiki. I am sure it is possible to create a
specialpage (Specialpages:NewArticle?) that does the same, but the
external form was easier for me.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Inputbox
This has been active on the Wikimedia wikis for quite a while. I
originally created it for Wikinews, but it's used in many different
places now. It supports preloading text.
Wow, saves me the work of creating it :) Thanx a lot,
Tels
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:49:32 +0100
From: Arena Andrea <andrea(a)arena.cd>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Wie gleichzeitig mehrere Wikis betreiben
To: mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org
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Hallo,
Unser Projekt soll ein Wiki, dass in den Sprachen Deutsch,
Italienisch, Französich und English erhältlich werden. Dazu
kommt ein
Wiki, dass nur für Administratoren da ist, sprich kein bearbeiten
für den user.
Bis jetzt habe ich nur die Mediawiki Software auf einer
Deutschen und
dieser geschützes Wiki installieren können.
Ich habe zwei Ordner mit Mediawiki und zwei Datenbanken erstellt.
Der Skin sollte bei allen Sprachen gleich aussehen.
Wie ist es systematisch am besten, die weiteren wikis zu installieren?
Möchte nochmals mein Ziel erklären:
Der User sieht auf der Hauptseite links im Menu die verschiedenen
Sprachen, wenn er z.b. auf Italienisch klickt, erscheint der Artikel
auf Italienisch(inklusiv der Navigation). Und das mit allen Sprachen.
Wie ist das im Hintergrund am besten zu installlieren? Die Skins,
Extensions und ganz wichtig die Bilder sollten für alle verfügbar
sein (keine doppelten dateien). Wie mache ich dann dass mit der
Bilder Datenbank?
Vielen Dank im voraus
andy
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