Following on from a recent discussion here, I have been trying to watch the WMF world from a secure login.
First statement is that it is problematic as so many links fail in the interwiki space. I cannot work out why some links to other wikis work fine and always take me to a secure server, whereas on other occasions I will only be offered a link to a normal http protocol within WMF.
Interwikis in a standard form are very problematic, well at least in some places, eg. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikisource/en/wiki/Author:Alfred_Tennyson both the direct link and the <=> links from [Extension:DoubleWiki Extension]
The sister links on that page are similarly problematic
Yet if I pop over to Commons, and go to a pages like https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Alfred_Lord_Ten... https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Alfred_Tennyson there do not seem the similar problems. Is it due to Commons being on the same path?
[Note that I haven't done a forensic analysis, this is all through wanderings]
Add to the issue is that so many of the local servers don't have a link to the secure servers as it is not a default configuration.
Also something that creates difficulties is that the favicon is the same for all secure.wikimedia.org pages, and when one is working on four or five properties at a time and all the tabs show "[W] My Watchlist" it does get very confusing. If there was some differentiation that would be helpful.
To add to that I am unable to find the information to try and understand more about the background to the issue. Any thought/guidance/pointers?
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Billinghurst wrote:
Following on from a recent discussion here, I have been trying to watch the WMF world from a secure login.
First statement is that it is problematic as so many links fail in the interwiki space. I cannot work out why some links to other wikis work fine and always take me to a secure server, whereas on other occasions I will only be offered a link to a normal http protocol within WMF.
Interwikis in a standard form are very problematic, well at least in some places, eg. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikisource/en/wiki/Author:Alfred_Tennyson both the direct link
That's a known bug.
and the <=> links from [Extension:DoubleWiki Extension]
That's a bug in BilingualLink() function in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. Talk with Pathoschild.
The sister links on that page are similarly problematic
Same issue as normal interwikis.
Yet if I pop over to Commons, and go to a pages like https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Alfred_Lord_Ten... https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Alfred_Tennyson there do not seem the similar problems. Is it due to Commons being on the same path?
There's one javascript in Commons fixing those links. They are equally broken if visiting with javascript disabled. See [[commons:MediaWiki:Common.js/secure.js]]
[Note that I haven't done a forensic analysis, this is all through wanderings]
Add to the issue is that so many of the local servers don't have a link to the secure servers as it is not a default configuration.
Also something that creates difficulties is that the favicon is the same for all secure.wikimedia.org pages, and when one is working on four or five properties at a time and all the tabs show "[W] My Watchlist" it does get very confusing. If there was some differentiation that would be helpful.
Yep. Would be nice to get it fixed.
To add to that I am unable to find the information to try and understand more about the background to the issue. Any thought/guidance/pointers?
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