Improving performance on English server: when the server reaches a certain threshhold of activity could we replace the text of all the Special pages with:
"This page is currently inaccessible because of the immensive amount of traffic we're getting. Wikipedia is just too popular."
Also, has the Lastaj Sxangxoj page on the Esperanto Wikipedia page been defaulted to 3 days yet?
Thanks, Chuck
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On mer, 2002-05-08 at 12:41, Chuck Smith wrote:
Improving performance on English server: when the server reaches a certain threshhold of activity could we replace the text of all the Special pages with:
"This page is currently inaccessible because of the immensive amount of traffic we're getting. Wikipedia is just too popular."
As others have said, I suspect that's not such a great idea -- it would make editing the 'pedia virtually impossible instead of the realm of the very very patient. :)
Also, has the Lastaj Sxangxoj page on the Esperanto Wikipedia page been defaulted to 3 days yet?
Apparently not. I've attached a diff to the config file that does that, and since while I was in there I noticed another setting, now tells it to NOT delete old page versions after 14 days. Grrrggghg!!!!! I think that's still going on on most of the non-English wikis -- that is a VERY BAD THING that should be changed as soon as possible!
While we're mentioning applying patches etc; I've added a couple little bug fixes to wikiTextEn.php (a couple missing/wrong entries in the intl wiki language name table), special_recentchangeslayout.php (watchlist entries are now boldened, but a bug was preventing those with spaces/underscores in the names from working), and special_watchlist.php (a little hack to cut down on the pain to the database -- every entry is checked with a separate database query, and the new accept-any-namespace version made it so slow as to time out on my long watchlist). Jimbo or Jason, if you could update those three files from CVS, that'd be great.
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--- "Brion L. VIBBER" brion@pobox.com escribió: > On mer, 2002-05-08 at 12:41, Chuck Smith wrote:
Improving performance on English server: when the server reaches a certain threshhold of activity
could
we replace the text of all the Special pages with:
"This page is currently inaccessible because of
the
immensive amount of traffic we're getting.
Wikipedia
is just too popular."
As others have said, I suspect that's not such a great idea -- it would make editing the 'pedia virtually impossible instead of the realm of the very very patient. :)
You saw that I said _Special_ pages, right?
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On mer, 2002-05-08 at 18:50, Chuck Smith wrote:
--- "Brion L. VIBBER" brion@pobox.com escribió: > On mer, 2002-05-08 at 12:41, Chuck Smith wrote:
Improving performance on English server: when the server reaches a certain threshhold of activity could we replace the text of all the Special pages with: "This page is currently inaccessible because of the immensive amount of traffic we're getting. Wikipedia is just too popular."
As others have said, I suspect that's not such a great idea -- it would make editing the 'pedia virtually impossible instead of the realm of the very very patient. :)
You saw that I said _Special_ pages, right?
Yes, of which special:RecentChanges is one. I don't know about you, but my Wikipedia regimen centers around the recent changes list: without it, there's no good way to see what other people are adding to the wiki that may need to be edited/corrected/expanded/commented on.
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--- "Brion L. VIBBER" brion@pobox.com escribió: > On mer, 2002-05-08 at 18:50, Chuck Smith wrote:
--- "Brion L. VIBBER" brion@pobox.com
escribió: >
On mer, 2002-05-08 at 12:41, Chuck Smith wrote:
Improving performance on English server: when
the
server reaches a certain threshhold of
activity could
we replace the text of all the Special pages
with:
"This page is currently inaccessible because
of the
immensive amount of traffic we're getting.
Wikipedia
is just too popular."
As others have said, I suspect that's not such a
great idea -- it would
make editing the 'pedia virtually impossible
instead of the realm of the
very very patient. :)
You saw that I said _Special_ pages, right?
Yes, of which special:RecentChanges is one. I don't know about you, but my Wikipedia regimen centers around the recent changes list: without it, there's no good way to see what other people are adding to the wiki that may need to be edited/corrected/expanded/commented on.
Ah, I meant all the Special pages *but* Recent Changes. Read what I mean, not what I write! :) Now how does the idea sound...?
Chuck
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Chuck Smith wrote:
Ah, I meant all the Special pages *but* Recent Changes. Read what I mean, not what I write! :) Now how does the idea sound...?
Why are we discussing ideas on wikitech-l, when we should discuss technology? Guessing belongs in metaphysics, engineering should be about knowing. This is not Big Brother where we vote on what to exclude. We should go out and find numbers from which we can make informed decisions on how to improve the performance, not sacrifice functionality. I'm suggesting ways to find such numbers, but I don't have access to update the source code.
Why are we discussing ideas on wikitech-l, when we should discuss technology? Guessing belongs in metaphysics, engineering should be about knowing. This is not Big Brother where we vote on what to exclude. We should go out and find numbers from which we can make informed decisions on how to improve the performance, not sacrifice functionality. I'm suggesting ways to find such numbers, but I don't have access to update the source code.
As far as I know it, in the world of IT sometimes you have to use work-arounds instead of finding the problem *temporarily* to make sure systems don't fall below a reasonable performance level. It's not the best idea, and it's not pretty, but it keeps the systems running. This new functionality is great, but if it's hurting the project (I think we're probably losing about 100-200 new articles/day), then it needs to be disabled until a fix can be found so we can at least stay as productive as before the upgrade.
Should I be posting to Wikipedia-L instead?
My thoughts, Chuck
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