I did two triages at the NOLA hackathon. Unfortunately, since these were in the flesh and I didn't have a designated note taker, I don't have a good set of notes. Compounding the problem is the time since these triages.
Caveats aside, I would still like to publish some brief information from the triages.
Since Sam Reedy and I were in the same room and he had asked for my help in sorting out the shell bugs that he handles, we set up an Etherpad (http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ShellSort) and started plowing through them to classify them into three different categories.
The other triage was an attempt to cover the regressions introduced in 1.18. We made some progress (http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/118-Regression-Triage), but in the end there were too many to cover in a single meeting. Hopefully, with the improved PHPUnit tests (http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/), and additional js tests (http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/) we'll have fewer regressions in our 1.19 release.
I was also able to meet with a couple of developers who were interested in working on the Selenium testing platform so I tagged a number of bugs that I thought could benefit from Selenium testing (see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-regression-test).
Thanks,
Mark.
Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
Since Sam Reedy and I were in the same room and he had asked for my help in sorting out the shell bugs that he handles, we set up an Etherpad (http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ShellSort) and started plowing through them to classify them into three different categories.
You mean Sam Reed.
Oftentimes I find your comments, both on the linked Etherpad and on Bugzilla generally, to be actively harmful in the resolution of bugs. I wish you'd adjust this. Uninformed noise is unquestionably problematic when it distracts from the primary issue. Your idea of research seems to rely heavily on Cunningham's Law, which in small doses isn't particularly bad, but in large doses is downright disruptive. Please stop.
MZMcBride
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Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
Since Sam Reedy and I were in the same room and he had asked for my help in sorting out the shell bugs that he handles, we set up an Etherpad (http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ShellSort) and started plowing through them to classify them into three different categories.
You mean Sam Reed.
Oftentimes I find your comments, both on the linked Etherpad and on Bugzilla generally, to be actively harmful in the resolution of bugs. I wish you'd adjust this. Uninformed noise is unquestionably problematic when it distracts from the primary issue. Your idea of research seems to rely heavily on Cunningham's Law, which in small doses isn't particularly bad, but in large doses is downright disruptive. Please stop.
Well, number 1, I gather you have no concept whatever of Brainstorming.
Number 2, I should think that if you're going to take that attitude with the technical director for a Really Large public project, you really need to show your work about an order of magnitude more than you did there.
So, what are you on about?
Cheers, -- jra
Jay Ashworth wrote:
Well, number 1, I gather you have no concept whatever of Brainstorming.
I have no idea what this means, but it's hardly your first incomprehensible post.
Number 2, I should think that if you're going to take that attitude with the technical director for a Really Large public project, you really need to show your work about an order of magnitude more than you did there.
Who's a "technical director for a Really Large public project"? I cited Bugzilla comments and the linked Etherpad as evidence. I don't think you're particularly involved in MediaWiki development, but if you were, I think you'd know exactly what I was talking about. If not, then the post wasn't really for you in the first place. :-)
MZMcBride
Wow. You're really off track here. It's time take take a step back and stop the ad hominems.
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Op 25 okt. 2011 om 14:09 heeft MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com het volgende geschreven:
Jay Ashworth wrote:
Well, number 1, I gather you have no concept whatever of Brainstorming.
I have no idea what this means, but it's hardly your first incomprehensible post.
Number 2, I should think that if you're going to take that attitude with the technical director for a Really Large public project, you really need to show your work about an order of magnitude more than you did there.
Who's a "technical director for a Really Large public project"? I cited Bugzilla comments and the linked Etherpad as evidence. I don't think you're particularly involved in MediaWiki development, but if you were, I think you'd know exactly what I was talking about. If not, then the post wasn't really for you in the first place. :-)
MZMcBride
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazeland@xs4all.nl wrote:
Wow. You're really off track here. It's time take take a step back and stop the ad hominems.
I agree, this thread is quickly going nowhere. Guys, take it offlist if you have anything else to say.
-Chad
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From: "MZMcBride" z@mzmcbride.com
Jay Ashworth wrote:
Well, number 1, I gather you have no concept whatever of Brainstorming.
I have no idea what this means, but it's hardly your first incomprehensible post.
Sure; whatever.
Number 2, I should think that if you're going to take that attitude with the technical director for a Really Large public project, you really need to show your work about an order of magnitude more than you did there.
Who's a "technical director for a Really Large public project"?
Excuse me; I had my Mark's confused. This Mark is 'merely' the bugmeister.
So he was *doing the job someone pays him to do*.
I cited Bugzilla comments and the linked Etherpad as evidence. I don't think you're particularly involved in MediaWiki development, but if you were, I think you'd know exactly what I was talking about. If not, then the post wasn't really for you in the first place. :-)
I'll make a note of that.
Cheers, -- jra
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