I am working on a project to host wiktionary on one web page and wikipedia on another. So both, sorry.. ----- Original Message ---- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:43:49 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] hosting wikipedia 2009/1/27 Stephen Dunn <swdunn(a)yahoo.com>om>: Why do you want to host Wiktionary? It's already hosted at en.wiktionary.org. And do you mean Wiktionary (as you said in the body of your email) or Wikipedia (as you said in the subject line)? Or do you actually mean your own wiki, unrelated to either of those? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

yes, website. so a web page has a search box that passes the input to wiktionary and results are provided on a results page. an example may be reference..com ----- Original Message ---- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] hosting wikipedia 2009/1/27 Stephen Dunn <swdunn(a)yahoo.com>om>: You mean web *site*, surely? They are both far too big to fit on a single page. I think you need to work out precisely what it is you're trying to do before we can help you. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

refer to reference. com website and do a search ----- Original Message ---- From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:07:36 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] hosting wikipedia 2009/1/27 Stephen Dunn <swdunn(a)yahoo.com>om>: How would this differ from the search box on en.wiktionary.org? What are you actually trying to achieve? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

I'll try to weigh in with a bit of useful information, but it probably won't help that much. You'll need a quite impressive machine to host even just the current revisions of the wiki. Expect to expend 10s to even hundreds of gigabytes on the database alone for Wikipedia using only the current versions. There instructions for how to load the data that can be found by googling "wikipedia dump". Several others have inquired for more information about your goal, and I'm going to echo that. The mechanics of hosting this kind of data (volume, really) are highly related to the associated task. This data used for academic research would be handled differenty than for a live website, for example. Nobody likes to be told they can't do something, or get a bunch of useless responses to a request for help. Very sincerely, though, unless you find enough information from the dump instruction pages to point you on the right direction and are able to ask more specific questions, you are in over your head. Your solution at that point would be to hire somebody. Sent from my phone, Jeff On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Stephen Dunn <swdunn(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Steve Summit <scs(a)eskimo.com> wrote: Let's AGF a bit... Even if someone with a not particularly Wikipedia goal in life links to one of our searches from their page, all the resultant search result links are back into Wikipedia. If people have a question about something, and want to look it up, does it really matter if they go to Wikipedia's front page and click "search" versus doing so in another context? We're providing an information resource - other sites can and often do link to our articles (quite appropriately). Why not link to our search? The search link should in fairness tell people what they're getting, sure, but that's more of a website-to-end-user disclosure problem than a problem for us. Google switching to use our search would crush us, obviously. As would AOL. But J. Random site? Seems like an ok thing, to me. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com<Simetrical%2Bwikilist@gmail.com> Right, but a live mirror is a very different thing than a search box link. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Aryeh Gregor &lt;Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: This one code don't even need to use http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search <input box id="word" /> <form id="form1"> <input type="button" onclick="searchWiktionary()" value="Define" /> </form> <script> function $(name){ return document.getElementById(name); } function searchWiktionary(){ var word = $("word").value; $("form1").setAttribute("action","http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/"+ escape(word) ); $("form1").submit(); } </script> -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.

I want to offer something like reference. com where the results are formatted in a manner consistent with the look and feel of my website. try a search on this site and you will see what I mean. So is this a live mirror? If ads are on the site, is the revenue shared? ----- Original Message ---- From: Aryeh Gregor &lt;Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:41:24 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] hosting wikipedia On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:37 PM, George Herbert &lt;george.herbert(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Well, as far as I can tell, we have no idea whether the original poster meant either of those, or perhaps something else altogether. Obviously nobody minds a search box link, that's just a *link*. You can't stop people from linking to you. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Any thoughts on this?? What code would I use if decided to use Open Search? Any thoughts on how to manage the search results to integrate it with my website present it consistently with the rest of the site? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tei &lt;oscar.vives(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:31:42 AM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] hosting wikipedia On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Tei &lt;oscar.vives(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: postadata: I know the OP talk about OpenSearch. This snip of code is something different instead. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l