After few weeks of reading "link only" email with same title with different date, and after much hestitation, I'm finally writing this. Can you please consider putting some summary or such on the mail along the link in the mail text, or just publishing it onwiki and NOT sending a one-line recurring email? Just a link sent to list gives no value on the discussion in any kind. See for example, wikimedia-l@lists.wm.o's Signpost (they provide title for their recurring entries) and wikidata@lists.wm.o's Weekly updates (They send whole volume to list along to the on-wiki newsletter).
Thank you for considering.
PS. I've just set the filter to automatically 'mark as read' for "Scrum of Scrums" in the title, right before sending this email.
-- revi https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 10. 8. 오전 3:28에 "Grace Gellerman" ggellerman@wikimedia.org님이 작성:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-10-07 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
I find the email useful. Each week, I can click on a link and see what happened at the meeting. I don't know if this is the best list to send this email to, but I do hope to keep receiving it.
Is there a way to "subscribe" to the contents which are posted onwiki? I wouldn't expect a subscription on the SoS page[1] to be triggered by a new sub-page being added, but if it will be, that's a workaround for me.
Including the entire minutes in email would be convenient for some people, but irritating for others. The content cannot really be summarized, so including a summary of the minutes probably isn't really possible. Should the message body contain a constant sentence describing what SoS is, to help people know whether or not they are likely to want to click on the link to find out more?
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Yongmin Hong lists@revi.pe.kr wrote:
After few weeks of reading "link only" email with same title with different date, and after much hestitation, I'm finally writing this. Can you please consider putting some summary or such on the mail along the link in the mail text, or just publishing it onwiki and NOT sending a one-line recurring email? Just a link sent to list gives no value on the discussion in any kind. See for example, wikimedia-l@lists.wm.o's Signpost (they provide title for their recurring entries) and wikidata@lists.wm.o's Weekly updates (They send whole volume to list along to the on-wiki newsletter).
Thank you for considering.
PS. I've just set the filter to automatically 'mark as read' for "Scrum of Scrums" in the title, right before sending this email.
-- revi https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 10. 8. 오전 3:28에 "Grace Gellerman" ggellerman@wikimedia.org님이 작성:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-10-07 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
I agree, I also find the email useful.
Considering different lists, this could perhaps be sent to the WMF Engineering list (engineering@). But, that list is private, and for general transparency reasons I think it's better to be open about this and continue to send it to this list.
Dan On 9 Oct 2015 3:42 pm, "Kevin Smith" ksmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
I find the email useful. Each week, I can click on a link and see what happened at the meeting. I don't know if this is the best list to send this email to, but I do hope to keep receiving it.
Is there a way to "subscribe" to the contents which are posted onwiki? I wouldn't expect a subscription on the SoS page[1] to be triggered by a new sub-page being added, but if it will be, that's a workaround for me.
Including the entire minutes in email would be convenient for some people, but irritating for others. The content cannot really be summarized, so including a summary of the minutes probably isn't really possible. Should the message body contain a constant sentence describing what SoS is, to help people know whether or not they are likely to want to click on the link to find out more?
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Yongmin Hong lists@revi.pe.kr wrote:
After few weeks of reading "link only" email with same title with
different
date, and after much hestitation, I'm finally writing this. Can you please consider putting some summary or such on the mail along
the
link in the mail text, or just publishing it onwiki and NOT sending a one-line recurring email? Just a link sent to list gives no value on the discussion in any kind. See for example, wikimedia-l@lists.wm.o's
Signpost
(they provide title for their recurring entries) and wikidata@lists.wm.o
's
Weekly updates (They send whole volume to list along to the on-wiki newsletter).
Thank you for considering.
PS. I've just set the filter to automatically 'mark as read' for "Scrum
of
Scrums" in the title, right before sending this email.
-- revi https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 10. 8. 오전 3:28에 "Grace Gellerman" ggellerman@wikimedia.org님이 작성:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-10-07 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
I like them, and have thought to ask to have the wikitext copy/pasted in the email. I also like both engineering@ and wikitech-l@, gets 'em all.
-- Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity. On Oct 9, 2015 14:49, "Dan Garry" dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I agree, I also find the email useful.
Considering different lists, this could perhaps be sent to the WMF Engineering list (engineering@). But, that list is private, and for general transparency reasons I think it's better to be open about this and continue to send it to this list.
Dan On 9 Oct 2015 3:42 pm, "Kevin Smith" ksmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
I find the email useful. Each week, I can click on a link and see what happened at the meeting. I don't know if this is the best list to send
this
email to, but I do hope to keep receiving it.
Is there a way to "subscribe" to the contents which are posted onwiki? I wouldn't expect a subscription on the SoS page[1] to be triggered by a
new
sub-page being added, but if it will be, that's a workaround for me.
Including the entire minutes in email would be convenient for some
people,
but irritating for others. The content cannot really be summarized, so including a summary of the minutes probably isn't really possible. Should the message body contain a constant sentence describing what SoS is, to help people know whether or not they are likely to want to click on the link to find out more?
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Yongmin Hong lists@revi.pe.kr wrote:
After few weeks of reading "link only" email with same title with
different
date, and after much hestitation, I'm finally writing this. Can you please consider putting some summary or such on the mail along
the
link in the mail text, or just publishing it onwiki and NOT sending a one-line recurring email? Just a link sent to list gives no value on
the
discussion in any kind. See for example, wikimedia-l@lists.wm.o's
Signpost
(they provide title for their recurring entries) and
wikidata@lists.wm.o
's
Weekly updates (They send whole volume to list along to the on-wiki newsletter).
Thank you for considering.
PS. I've just set the filter to automatically 'mark as read' for "Scrum
of
Scrums" in the title, right before sending this email.
-- revi https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 10. 8. 오전 3:28에 "Grace Gellerman" ggellerman@wikimedia.org님이
작성:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-10-07 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On 10/09/2015 03:41 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
Is there a way to "subscribe" to the contents which are posted onwiki? I wouldn't expect a subscription on the SoS page[1] to be triggered by a new sub-page being added, but if it will be, that's a workaround for me.
I ran a quick bot to categorize all the previous scrum of scrums notes, and you can now get an atom feed of changes. If the new notes are also added to the category, they will also show up in the feed.
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?hidebots=1&days=14&limit=50&...
Including the entire minutes in email would be convenient for some people, but irritating for others. The content cannot really be summarized, so including a summary of the minutes probably isn't really possible. Should the message body contain a constant sentence describing what SoS is, to help people know whether or not they are likely to want to click on the link to find out more?
Why do you think people would find it irritating? I don't think we need a summary, including the full notes would be extremely useful.
-- Legoktm
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