Welcome aboard, Munaf!
I look forward to working with you soon,
Fabrice
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On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:03 PM, wikitech-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
From: Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer Date: June 4, 2012 4:43:52 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Munaf Assaf massaf@wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung hfung@wikimedia.org wrote:
Everyone,
I’m pleased to welcome Munaf Assaf, a new member of the Product Group. Munaf is starting today as UX Designer and will work mainly on the Editor Engagement Experiments projects. Almost all of these projects have a user-facing component, and Munaf will help us design interfaces to make these experiments and features more user-friendly.
Munaf joins us from the University of Michigan (UM), where he worked as a Research Associate in the Office of Enabling Technologies. At UM, he worked on a variety of projects, including mobile informatics applications and engagement tools for visiting hospital patients. His most recent project was the design of a high-tech collaboration space in conjunction with the Taubman School of Architecture. Earlier in his career, Munaf was an Algorithm Design Engineer at General Motors, where he worked on control systems for improving vehicle fuel efficiency.
He has a BS in Electrical Engineering from Kettering University, as well as an MSI in Human-Computer Interaction from the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. For more information on his background, please see his public profile [1].
Please join me in welcoming Munaf!
Howie
[1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/munafassaf
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Welcome Munaf! Glad to have you on the team. :)
Steven
From: John Du Hart compwhizii@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook grabs the Mediawiki logo instead of the site logo Date: June 4, 2012 4:47:55 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Yeah I remember that. On Jun 4, 2012 7:45 PM, "Chad" innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
Here Facebook grabs the Mediawiki logo instead of the site logo.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/tg.taiwan/permalink/374509135949001/?comment_...
Doing the same experiment with e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_clan_chief , a page also without any user embedded images, oddly does not cause the mediawiki logo to be chosen.
Though it does not choose the site logo, at least it doesn't choose the mediawiki logo.
Didn't we discuss this almost a year ago?
Indeed, we did: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2011-July/037710.html
-Chad
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From: Nasir Khan nasir8891@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer Date: June 4, 2012 6:29:54 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Congrats :) On Jun 5, 2012 5:44 AM, "Steven Walling" steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung hfung@wikimedia.org wrote:
Everyone,
I’m pleased to welcome Munaf Assaf, a new member of the Product Group. Munaf is starting today as UX Designer and will work mainly on the Editor Engagement Experiments projects. Almost all of these projects have a user-facing component, and Munaf will help us design interfaces to make these experiments and features more user-friendly.
Munaf joins us from the University of Michigan (UM), where he worked as a Research Associate in the Office of Enabling Technologies. At UM, he worked on a variety of projects, including mobile informatics applications and engagement tools for visiting hospital patients. His most recent project was the design of a high-tech collaboration space in conjunction with the Taubman School of Architecture. Earlier in his career, Munaf was an Algorithm Design Engineer at General Motors, where he worked on control systems for improving vehicle fuel efficiency.
He has a BS in Electrical Engineering from Kettering University, as well as an MSI in Human-Computer Interaction from the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. For more information on his background, please see his public profile [1].
Please join me in welcoming Munaf!
Howie
[1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/munafassaf
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Welcome Munaf! Glad to have you on the team. :)
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From: Ori Livneh ori.livneh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer Date: June 4, 2012 10:04:41 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung hfung@wikimedia.org wrote:
Please join me in welcoming Munaf!
Hi Munaf! Glad you're here.
From: Ori Livneh ori.livneh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers Date: June 4, 2012 10:50:50 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Chad innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
So yeah, its not as easy as it sounds on the tin, so I don't want to hand this out en masse. In an ideal world, I want us to have a special page where people can request repos and we can automate the icky backend stuff.
If it isn't easy, let's make it easy. I'm a new developer and not having a repository to develop in has been absolutely paralyzing. (I requested one on May 23, for what it's worth).
Gerrit is not just an SCM: there is a rapidly growing ecosystem of services that integrate with it -- and if your code isn't there, you're persona non grata. I've whipped up two iterations of a data collection backend for my team and got it set up on a labs instance, but that was a week ago, and since then things are at a standstill. It's been hard to get anyone to look at it, because everyone's workflow and attentional habits are interwoven with Gerrit now.
This particular side-project is a useful illustration of another important point: Git's usefulness isn't limited to managing mature projects like Mediawiki -- it has a crucial role to play in the earliest stages of development, too. I have no idea if what I wrote is usable and scalable, and it would've been good to get some feedback early. In the past, I have found it useful and productive to whip up quick prototypes and put them up on GitHub for feedback, instead of trading in inchoate ideas, or sitting on them until the ideas feel mature (which *never* happens for me until I sit down and start writing code). The ideas that stick get developed into full-fledged products. Using Git in this way has been such a tremendous boon for me as a developer, and not having that has been really frustrating.
I don't think expanding git-creation rights to a few more individuals goes far enough, because the point at which you need a repository is antecedent to the point in time at which you feel comfortable describing your work to someone. For cool projects to happen, people need to feel empowered to start repos for projects that seem speculative and maybe even a little silly, and that won't happen when you make it necessary to ask for permission.
At this point I expect someone to come along and point out that you don't need Gerrit to start a Git repository -- "git init" will suffice. And that's true, as long as you don't need to collaborate with anyone, or develop on more than one machine (say rsync & I'll bop you on the head!), or have stable urls to share with people.
From: Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers Date: June 4, 2012 11:00:49 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Ori Livneh ori.livneh@gmail.com wrote:
If it isn't easy, let's make it easy. I'm a new developer and not having a repository to develop in has been absolutely paralyzing. (I requested one on May 23, for what it's worth).
Gerrit is not just an SCM: there is a rapidly growing ecosystem of services that integrate with it -- and if your code isn't there, you're persona non grata. I've whipped up two iterations of a data collection backend for my team and got it set up on a labs instance, but that was a week ago, and since then things are at a standstill. It's been hard to get anyone to look at it, because everyone's workflow and attentional habits are interwoven with Gerrit now.
This particular side-project is a useful illustration of another important point: Git's usefulness isn't limited to managing mature projects like Mediawiki -- it has a crucial role to play in the earliest stages of development, too. I have no idea if what I wrote is usable and scalable, and it would've been good to get some feedback early. In the past, I have found it useful and productive to whip up quick prototypes and put them up on GitHub for feedback, instead of trading in inchoate ideas, or sitting on them until the ideas feel mature (which *never* happens for me until I sit down and start writing code). The ideas that stick get developed into full-fledged products. Using Git in this way has been such a tremendous boon for me as a developer, and not having that has been really frustrating.
I don't think expanding git-creation rights to a few more individuals goes far enough, because the point at which you need a repository is antecedent to the point in time at which you feel comfortable describing your work to someone. For cool projects to happen, people need to feel empowered to start repos for projects that seem speculative and maybe even a little silly, and that won't happen when you make it necessary to ask for permission.
At this point I expect someone to come along and point out that you don't need Gerrit to start a Git repository -- "git init" will suffice. And that's true, as long as you don't need to collaborate with anyone, or develop on more than one machine (say rsync & I'll bop you on the head!), or have stable urls to share with people.
I mostly agree with what you've said.
Just wanted to point out gerrit projects (aka repos) can never be destroyed. so if you e.g. typo or rename a project or kill it 5 days after you started it's still there forever. Only very recently have we even been able to hide projects from project listings in the UI.
-Jeremy
From: Ori Livneh ori.livneh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers Date: June 4, 2012 11:13:24 PM PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
I mostly agree with what you've said.
Just wanted to point out gerrit projects (aka repos) can never be destroyed. so if you e.g. typo or rename a project or kill it 5 days after you started it's still there forever. Only very recently have we even been able to hide projects from project listings in the UI.
Isn't the same basically true of Wiki articles? I understand the desire to keep things tidy, okay. But what would be the big deal about having ten or even a hundred thousand abandoned repositories, so long as they are hidden, and do not clutter the UI? The repositories that would be candidates for deletion are the ones that got no further than an initial stab, and those measure in kilobytes.
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