I'm pretty sure their servers are in Europe -- after all, this was the whole point of the conversation I had with them. I will check to be sure that we are talking about a machine physically sitting in Europe, because what you're telling me is a real surprise.
Jens Frank wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:25:53PM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
I've made arrangements with the European Graduate School, http://www.egs.edu/ for them to host a squid proxy box for European visitors. I assume we're not 100% ready to move to that solution, but we're close, right?
You're sure their machines are in Europe? Traceroute tells me that they are even further away from me than wikipedia, but both are in California. I checked their mail gateways, too, same CoLo in California.
$ traceroute www.egs.edu traceroute: Warning: www.egs.edu has multiple addresses; using 207.155.248.4 traceroute to www.egs.edu (207.155.248.4), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 gw-prtr-66-a.schlund.net (217.160.223.253) 0.357 ms 0.240 ms 0.199 ms 2 v999.gw-core.bs.ka.schlund.net (212.227.125.1) 0.331 ms 0.317 ms 0.298 ms 3 ge-230.gw-backbone-a.bs.ka.schlund.net (212.227.121.231) 0.412 ms 0.385 ms 0.370 ms 4 so-3000.gw-backbone-a.ffm.schlund.net (212.227.112.125) 5.143 ms 5.076 ms 5.090 ms 5 sl-gw20-fra-2-3.sprintlink.net (217.147.97.57) 5.073 ms 5.051 ms 5.025 ms 6 sl-bb21-fra-9-0.sprintlink.net (217.147.96.226) 5.468 ms 5.347 ms 5.328 ms 7 sl-bb20-par-14-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.65) 15.398 ms 15.345 ms 15.374 ms 8 sl-bb21-par-15-0.sprintlink.net (217.118.224.34) 54.755 ms 15.576 ms 21.009 ms 9 sl-bb20-lon-13-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.69) 22.431 ms 22.314 ms 22.496 ms 10 sl-bb21-lon-15-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.128.38) 22.446 ms 22.362 ms 22.385 ms 11 sl-bb21-tuk-10-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.69) 91.185 ms 91.264 ms 91.219 ms 12 sl-bb20-tuk-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.132) 188.716 ms 91.376 ms 91.426 ms 13 sl-bb21-rly-15-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.120) 95.213 ms 96.459 ms 95.141 ms 14 sl-bb22-rly-13-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.254) 95.212 ms 95.755 ms 95.180 ms 15 sl-bb26-rly-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.174) 246.570 ms 249.159 ms 267.609 ms 16 sl-st21-ash-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.134) 96.783 ms 96.571 ms 97.099 ms 17 sl-xocomm-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.246.50) 96.287 ms 95.969 ms 96.081 ms 18 p5-0-0.RAR2.Washington-DC.us.xo.net (65.106.3.137) 97.304 ms 97.130 ms 97.156 ms 19 p0-0-0-0.RAR1.Washington-DC.us.xo.net (65.106.1.13) 119.466 ms 98.296 ms 115.247 ms 20 p1-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.38) 175.654 ms 175.684 ms 175.690 ms 21 p1-0.DCR1.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.2.170) 176.560 ms 176.591 ms 176.520 ms 22 repulse.concentric.net (207.155.248.4) 176.791 ms !A 176.379 ms !A 176.509 ms !A
Compare to wikipedia:
$ traceroute www.wikipedia.org traceroute to www.wikipedia.org (130.94.122.199), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 gw-prtr-66-a.schlund.net (217.160.223.253) 0.337 ms 0.142 ms 0.210 ms 2 v999.gw-core.bs.ka.schlund.net (212.227.125.1) 0.464 ms 0.295 ms 0.290 ms 3 ge-42.gw-backbone-b.bs.ka.schlund.net (212.227.121.232) 0.386 ms 0.251 ms 0.251 ms 4 pos-80.gw-backbone-b.ffm.schlund.net (212.227.112.127) 2.931 ms 2.851 ms 2.859 ms 5 212.162.44.157 (212.162.44.157) 3.281 ms 3.089 ms 3.151 ms 6 ae-0-51.mp1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (195.122.136.1) 3.756 ms 3.551 ms 3.534 ms 7 so-2-0-0.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (212.187.128.94) 9.978 ms 9.830 ms 9.875 ms 8 ge-6-1.core2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.86) 10.127 ms 10.139 ms 10.183 ms 9 Verio-Level3.Level3.net (213.244.165.242) 29.867 ms 29.875 ms 29.825 ms 10 p16-2-0-0.r01.amstnl02.nl.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.135) 30.196 ms 30.145 ms 30.099 ms 11 p16-1-0-0.r80.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.87) 94.213 ms 94.210 ms 94.943 ms 12 p16-1-2-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.44) 94.294 ms 94.089 ms 94.223 ms 13 p16-0-1-2.r20.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.192) 155.130 ms 155.034 ms 155.005 ms 14 p64-0-0-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.71) 155.133 ms 155.038 ms 155.055 ms 15 xe-0-2-0.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.73) 155.166 ms 155.108 ms 155.102 ms 16 p16-1-1-1.r21.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.186) 162.134 ms 162.104 ms 162.046 ms 17 p16-3-0-0.r01.sndgca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.159) 165.694 ms 165.634 ms 165.600 ms 18 ge-1-2.a03.sndgca01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.27.100) 165.764 ms 165.610 ms 165.663 ms 19 ge-2-1.a04.sndgca01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.27.101) 165.776 ms 165.714 ms 165.713 ms 20 larousse.wikipedia.org (130.94.122.199) 163.567 ms 163.522 ms 163.480 ms
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