In fact the question is no more the choice between Debian, RedHat and SuSE, but only between RedHat and SuSE, since Debian does not really fit on Athlon 64 for the moment. So this software, which could be an interesting feature for Wikipedia could make a difference, isn't it ?
Traroth
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Well, Taw, I appreciate that you remember my request. Some people at Japanese wikipedia indicated that being able to use Japanese in TeX would be good.
I personally do not know much about how good, or how crucial, it is. But I have seen japanese wikipedians mentioning to it multiple times, and one time I specifically asked if I should make a request to others (outside japanese wikipedia). Some wikipedians responded that that would be nice. So I believe it is at least somewhat meaningful thing for math and other TeX-intensive articles.
Regards,
Tomos
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 00:40 US/Pacific, Dufrenoy, Alexis wrote:
In fact the question is no more the choice between Debian, RedHat and SuSE, but only between RedHat and SuSE, since Debian does not really fit on Athlon 64 for the moment. So this software, which could be an interesting feature for Wikipedia could make a difference, isn't it ?
I can't imagine any reason to replace the SuSE that ships with the machine.
Also note that this machine will be running the database only, not the web servers, so the TeX packages don't make any difference here.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
-----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
I can't imagine any reason to replace the SuSE that ships with the machine.
I would stick with SuSE too. It has shown to be a reliable and dedicated provider for 64-bit Linux. Have been using on a POWER4 architecture with great results.
-Fuzheado
Brion Vibber wrote:
I can't imagine any reason to replace the SuSE that ships with the machine.
O.k., I think this is the developed consensus. We'll stick with SuSE unless someone comes up with a real blockbuster.
1. SuSE is already on the machine (very important)
2. SuSE has CJK Latex (not so important, since this is the db machine, but still nice)
3. SuSE has a reputation for solid 64 bit work.
4. Anyhow, SuSE and Redhat are very very similar in most ways, i.e. RPM based, etc., so although Debian is preferred by some, there doesn't seem to be any reason to strongly prefer RedHat to SuSE *for our purpose*.
5. And Debian would be popular here, but it isn't ready for 64 bit yet.
--Jimbo
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:46:05AM -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 00:40 US/Pacific, Dufrenoy, Alexis wrote:
In fact the question is no more the choice between Debian, RedHat and SuSE, but only between RedHat and SuSE, since Debian does not really fit on Athlon 64 for the moment. So this software, which could be an interesting feature for Wikipedia could make a difference, isn't it ?
I can't imagine any reason to replace the SuSE that ships with the machine.
Also note that this machine will be running the database only, not the web servers, so the TeX packages don't make any difference here.
So what about replacing RedHat with something else on other machines too ?
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
So what about replacing RedHat with something else on other machines too ?
Well, for the production servers this is essentially out of the question right now. They're heavily in use, and changing the OS would be quite the big ordeal! And so far as I know, if the issue is just CJK latex, that should be easier to resolve by updating LaTex rather than completely changing the OS.
RedHat is perfectly good, I like RedHat.
--Jimbo
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