Hoi,
The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them
- a link to Commons categories for a subject - a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages - a link to the Wikidata item - visualisation care of the "Reasonator"
When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items. Obviously as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve.
This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM
Hi gerard, that sounds really exciting! Is it necessary to change a setting to see this behaviour? If not i d appreciate if you could give an example where one could see this best.
Rupert Am 02.12.2013 18:50 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi,
The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them
- a link to Commons categories for a subject
- a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages
- a link to the Wikidata item
- visualisation care of the "Reasonator"
When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items. Obviously as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve.
This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM
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Hoi, There are two ways of enabling this Wikidata search functionality; Wiki wide and personally. It is done by adding this one line to common.js..
importScriptURI("//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
You add it either to mediawiki:common.js or to USER/common.js. Thanks, GerardM
On 3 December 2013 08:28, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
Hi gerard, that sounds really exciting! Is it necessary to change a setting to see this behaviour? If not i d appreciate if you could give an example where one could see this best.
Rupert Am 02.12.2013 18:50 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi,
The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows
has
more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them
- a link to Commons categories for a subject
- a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages
- a link to the Wikidata item
- visualisation care of the "Reasonator"
When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items.
Obviously
as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve.
This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM
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Hi all,
I want to propose a logo for reasonator (to substitute the "R" now in use); https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal.png
also, I think that in the mouseover text a more verbose description like: "Show the properties of this item" would be helpful.
Ciao,
Cristian
I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?
Cheers, Magnus
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I want to propose a logo for reasonator (to substitute the "R" now in use); https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal.png
also, I think that in the mouseover text a more verbose description like: "Show the properties of this item" would be helpful.
Ciao,
Cristian
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2013/12/3 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?
((... usual big IANAL disclaimer here ...))
I think so. On Wikimedia sites "You may use and remix the Wikimedia marks on the Wikimedia sites as you please."[1], see also this FAQ[2] which mentions tools.
Cristian
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#policy-onwmsites [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#FAQ-withoutpermission
OK, now live with the logo! :-)
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/3 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?
((... usual big IANAL disclaimer here ...))
I think so. On Wikimedia sites "You may use and remix the Wikimedia marks on the Wikimedia sites as you please."[1], see also this FAQ[2] which mentions tools.
Cristian
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#policy-onwmsites [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#FAQ-withoutpermission
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I've not been following the trademark policy draft discussion, but note that Labs is explicitly not part of "Wikimedia sites" according to the definition of this (formerly unknown) term on the privacy policy draft: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#A_Little_Background: «excluding, however, sites and services listed in the "What This Privacy Policy Doesn't Cover" section below [...] tools and sites, such as Wikimedia Labs».
Nemo
Hoi,
The logo looks fine to me... I already blogged about it [1]. We are also looking for a logo for the "Concept Cloud" .. Lydia indicated that there are more t-shirts that can be shipped for another great design :)
Thanks, GerardM
[1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/12/will-this-be-reasonator-logo.html
On 3 December 2013 13:46, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
I've not been following the trademark policy draft discussion, but note that Labs is explicitly not part of "Wikimedia sites" according to the definition of this (formerly unknown) term on the privacy policy draft: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#A_Little_Background%3E: «excluding, however, sites and services listed in the "What This Privacy Policy Doesn't Cover" section below [...] tools and sites, such as Wikimedia Labs».
Nemo
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2013/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi,
The logo looks fine to me... I already blogged about it [1].
Thank so much, Gerard. Only a minor point my nickname (and also my real name) is "Cristian" with no "h". :-)
C
2013/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
The logo looks fine to me...
Following a suggestion from a Google+ comment I have uploaded an alternative (and cleaner) version of the logo here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal_no_backgrou..., On full scale I like the most this version (different again): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal_with_motive... but as a logo I think the original or the previous one are better.
Cristian
Technically, the JavaScript is just hosted on Labs, but run on Wikipedia ;-)
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.comwrote:
I've not been following the trademark policy draft discussion, but note that Labs is explicitly not part of "Wikimedia sites" according to the definition of this (formerly unknown) term on the privacy policy draft: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#A_Little_Background%3E: «excluding, however, sites and services listed in the "What This Privacy Policy Doesn't Cover" section below [...] tools and sites, such as Wikimedia Labs».
Nemo
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Hi all,
Yes! You can do this under the new trademark policy. Here is some discussion about use of logos on Labs: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy#Discussion_about_secti.... We'll add some language to the Trademark Policy FAQ to clarify this.
Nice logo, Cristian!
Best, Yana
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/3 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?
((... usual big IANAL disclaimer here ...))
I think so. On Wikimedia sites "You may use and remix the Wikimedia marks on the Wikimedia sites as you please."[1], see also this FAQ[2] which mentions tools.
Cristian
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#policy-onwmsites [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#FAQ-withoutpermission
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi, There are two ways of enabling this Wikidata search functionality; Wiki wide and personally. It is done by adding this one line to common.js..
importScriptURI("// en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript ");
You add it either to mediawiki:common.js or to USER/common.js. Thanks, GerardM
Please don't load the script on every page. It only targets the search result page. This means a redundant request on every page that isn't the search page. You can change it to:
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Search' ) { importScriptURI("// en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript "); }
Thanks! Ori
Il 05/dic/2013 07:32 "Ori Livneh" ori@wikimedia.org ha scritto:
Please don't load the script on every page. It only targets the search result page. This means a redundant request on every page that isn't the search page. You can change it to:
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Search' ) { importScriptURI("//
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
"); }
It is used also in ns0 pages that do not exist yet.
C
Hoi, I received this mail ... It answers your question .. Thanks, Gerard
Hoi,
Thanks to some help by Ori Livneh, there are some new installation instructions that I've added for Wdsearch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js
Would you be able to go around to the various wikis that have enabled this and get them to update the code? I've lost track of which wikis are using it.
Thanks, -- Legoktm
On 6 December 2013 09:52, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.com wrote:
Il 05/dic/2013 07:32 "Ori Livneh" ori@wikimedia.org ha scritto:
Please don't load the script on every page. It only targets the search result page. This means a redundant request on every page that isn't the search page. You can change it to:
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Search' ) { importScriptURI("//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
"); }
It is used also in ns0 pages that do not exist yet.
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On 2 December 2013 17:49, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata.
This is great; and now on pl.WP too.
What about a big button, in the relevant host language, saying "Start a Wikipedia article on this subject" (with a smaller "how to" link alongside)?
The edit window could be pre-populated.
(I believe the German-language community have also been discussing this idea)
It would be nice if wikidata could store the appropriate pagename for articles that dont exist yet.
Not very important, as a suitable pagename can be guessed in most cases using occupation. On Dec 4, 2013 11:55 PM, "Andy Mabbett" andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 2 December 2013 17:49, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search
will
find results added from Wikidata.
This is great; and now on pl.WP too.
What about a big button, in the relevant host language, saying "Start a Wikipedia article on this subject" (with a smaller "how to" link alongside)?
The edit window could be pre-populated.
(I believe the German-language community have also been discussing this idea)
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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