Over these last few months, it has been frustrating when GFDL righteous wikipedians nix each others images because of fear of copyright violation. This respect for the GFDL which is extremely vigorous, but I feel it is also very harmful to wikipedia.
To alleviate some of this, we should allow the inclusion of offsite images. This is perfectley acceptable. Take http://news.google.com for example, which is greatly improved by the addition of any image seen fit, also note that not a single image there is hosted on google. I emailed them, and they said that what they do eg: <img src="http://anotherserver/file.jpg"/> is completely within the realm of copyright policy.
So, the only issue that might remain is that I have observerd a corpus of people who go to great lengths to discourage minor copyright violations, I believe that this is to appease the forces that be so that they will have confidence in turning wikipedia into a marketable, paper product.
In response to the common arguments that might arise from them , I strongly feel that when its time for these forces that be to publish wikipedia, that these forces should dish out the money to ensure (by whatever means they choose) that the offsite images are suitably dealt with.
Thus, I hope that we discontinue going to great lengths to halt the nature of the internet within wikipedia.
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On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 03:58:28PM -0700, Hunter Peress wrote:
Over these last few months, it has been frustrating when GFDL righteous wikipedians nix each others images because of fear of copyright violation. This respect for the GFDL which is extremely vigorous, but I feel it is also very harmful to wikipedia.
To alleviate some of this, we should allow the inclusion of offsite images. This is perfectley acceptable. Take http://news.google.com for example, which is greatly improved by the addition of any image seen fit, also note that not a single image there is hosted on google. I emailed them, and they said that what they do eg: <img src="http://anotherserver/file.jpg"/> is completely within the realm of copyright policy.
So, the only issue that might remain is that I have observerd a corpus of people who go to great lengths to discourage minor copyright violations, I believe that this is to appease the forces that be so that they will have confidence in turning wikipedia into a marketable, paper product.
In response to the common arguments that might arise from them , I strongly feel that when its time for these forces that be to publish wikipedia, that these forces should dish out the money to ensure (by whatever means they choose) that the offsite images are suitably dealt with.
Thus, I hope that we discontinue going to great lengths to halt the nature of the internet within wikipedia.
NO !!!
Wikipedia must remain free.
I sometimes wonder if it isn't one of our proprietary competitors who send people with such suicidal ideas.
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 03:58:28PM -0700, Hunter Peress wrote:
To alleviate some of this, we should allow the inclusion of offsite images. This is perfectley acceptable. <snip>
Thus, I hope that we discontinue going to great lengths to halt the nature of the internet within wikipedia.
NO !!!
Wikipedia must remain free.
I sometimes wonder if it isn't one of our proprietary competitors who send people with such suicidal ideas.
Offsite linking is also generally held to be bad netiquette. When is the inclusion of an image *so* vital? You could do what I have done on [[Spurn]] -- give a link to a webpage which shows images.
This is a policy issue which should be discussed on wikipedia-l, not on wikitech-l.
But, basically, I remain firmly opposed to the mixing of non-GFDL material into the encyclopedia as a matter of principle.
I believe that this is to appease the forces that be so that they will have confidence in turning wikipedia into a marketable, paper product.
Well, I'm "the forces that be", and <sarcasm>yes, you're right, it's all a scam to make money</sarcasm>. :-)
--Jimbo
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