Imagine a wiki focused on helping people understand how to invest. We've taken a big step in the right direction but need more amazing people to help us turn the vision into reality. Check us out: there are articles about all kinds of companies and also interesting concepts, trends, and investing ideas like the iPhone, Renewable Energy, Mobile phone usage in China, The Hurricane Season, and The Impact of Internet Advertising. And we've extended mediawiki in some pretty cool ways.
Excited about the vision? Want to get involved?
We're looking for: * Web Developer to help drive the ongoing development of the look and feel of Wikinvest.com * Flash/Flex Developer to build cool interactive applications, like our WikiCharts * Software Developer to build all kinds of cool technology * User Interface Architect to help design our website so it looks beautiful and is intuitive to use
Read more detailed job descriptions at: http://www.wikinvest.com/site/Join_our_team
Interested candidates should send your resume to jobs@wikinvest.com. Please also include in your email a summary what you're been up to for the past few years that makes you the right person for our team as well as a list of ideas you have for how to improve Wikinvest.
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"Michael Sha" sha@deas.harvard.edu wrote in message news:f142ff670708212238m1cdb1730ld149a04dc4990efe@mail.gmail.com...
Imagine a wiki focused on helping people understand how to invest. We've taken a big step in the right direction but need more amazing people to
help
us turn the vision into reality. Check us out: there are articles about
all
kinds of companies and also interesting concepts, trends, and investing ideas like the iPhone, Renewable Energy, Mobile phone usage in China, The Hurricane Season, and The Impact of Internet Advertising. And we've extended mediawiki in some pretty cool ways.
Point 8 in the terms of service[1] includes the line (emphasis mine):
"You may not modify, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works of, publicly display or in any way exploit, any of the content, SOFTWARE, and/or materials available on Wikinvest, in whole or in part, except as expressly provided in Nvest's policies and procedures made available via Wikinvest."
Isn't this a violation of the GPL for MediaWiki. Or perhaps it is referring to some other software (in which case clarification is probably required)?
In addition I found no mention that the site was powered by MediaWiki and that the software, including any modifications you have made, is available under the GPL. I am unsure whether this is a requirement, though - perhaps someone can clarify that.
Finally, there is a lot of help content that has been copied from Wikipedia, and aside from a 'thank you' on the contents page[2] there is no attribution. These pages need a clear link to the source article, and to the full GFDL text. Also, it should be noted that all edits made to these pages are also (by definition) licensed under the GFDL. If it would make things easier, there are some public domain help pages being developed at mediawiki.org [3], which aren't quite as good or as thorough, but which may be used without attribution.
- Mark Clements (HappyDog)
[1] http://www.wikinvest.com/site/Terms_of_Service [2] http://www.wikinvest.com/help/Contents [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents
I see nothing that even says or shows that it's run with the MediaWiki software. Is it?
On 8/25/07, Mark Clements gmane@kennel17.co.uk wrote:
"Michael Sha" sha@deas.harvard.edu wrote in message news:f142ff670708212238m1cdb1730ld149a04dc4990efe@mail.gmail.com...
Imagine a wiki focused on helping people understand how to invest. We've taken a big step in the right direction but need more amazing people to
help
us turn the vision into reality. Check us out: there are articles about
all
kinds of companies and also interesting concepts, trends, and investing ideas like the iPhone, Renewable Energy, Mobile phone usage in China,
The
Hurricane Season, and The Impact of Internet Advertising. And we've extended mediawiki in some pretty cool ways.
Point 8 in the terms of service[1] includes the line (emphasis mine):
"You may not modify, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works of, publicly display or in any way exploit, any of the content, SOFTWARE, and/or materials available on Wikinvest, in whole or in part, except as expressly provided in Nvest's policies and procedures made available via Wikinvest."
Isn't this a violation of the GPL for MediaWiki. Or perhaps it is referring to some other software (in which case clarification is probably required)?
In addition I found no mention that the site was powered by MediaWiki and that the software, including any modifications you have made, is available under the GPL. I am unsure whether this is a requirement, though - perhaps someone can clarify that.
Finally, there is a lot of help content that has been copied from Wikipedia, and aside from a 'thank you' on the contents page[2] there is no attribution. These pages need a clear link to the source article, and to the full GFDL text. Also, it should be noted that all edits made to these pages are also (by definition) licensed under the GFDL. If it would make things easier, there are some public domain help pages being developed at mediawiki.org [3], which aren't quite as good or as thorough, but which may be used without attribution.
- Mark Clements (HappyDog)
[1] http://www.wikinvest.com/site/Terms_of_Service [2] http://www.wikinvest.com/help/Contents [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents
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2007/8/25, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com:
I see nothing that even says or shows that it's run with the MediaWiki software. Is it?
http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/Special:Version is restricted to bureaucrats, unfortunately, but http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/Special:Specialpages looks very much like Mediawiki's to me, as do the other accessible special pages.
And they're definitely using things like the Monobook[1], so if the software isn't based on Mediawiki, they sure are going to great lengths to make it look like it is. :P
1. http://www.wikinvest.com/wikinvest/css/?files=css/monobook.main.css
On 8/25/07, Schneelocke schneelocke@gmail.com wrote:
2007/8/25, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com:
I see nothing that even says or shows that it's run with the MediaWiki software. Is it?
http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/Special:Version is restricted to bureaucrats, unfortunately, but
Yeah, I noticed that and was a little confused as to why. :-)
http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/Special:Specialpages looks very much
like Mediawiki's to me, as do the other accessible special pages.
And they're definitely using things like the Monobook[1], so if the software isn't based on Mediawiki, they sure are going to great lengths to make it look like it is. :P
Hehe.
1. http://www.wikinvest.com/wikinvest/css/?files=css/monobook.main.css
-- schnee
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Casey Brown wrote:
I see nothing that even says or shows that it's run with the MediaWiki software. Is it?
Obviously it has been tried to 'hide' it, but http://www.wikinvest.com/site/Terms_of_Service?action=edit seems mediawiki code (do you notice the __NOTOC__ at the end? ;) Also "Protected "Site:Terms of Service": Site Policy [edit=sysop:move=sysop])" is quite revealing http://www.wikinvest.com/site/Terms_of_Service?action=history
So looking at your tems of service, it seems like you expect people to take on their free time to contribute to the content of your website that only you will be able to cash on? Hope it works out for you. Maybe you could be print books on how to invest later using your user content and make big bucks on the behalf of your users. Here is an idea: invest in a community web site to get some content for free from people and be the only one to cash on, oops I guess you already got that one.
This reminds me of the great ED definition of social networking:
Social delusion, aka unwarranted self-importance is what enables Web 2.0 so fucking profitable -- a hive mind community believing their own desires, dreams, aspirations and individuality are important create a massive amount of clicks, hits, and in turn, money for the owners, who promptly shit the users out in the cold.
On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 15:23 -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
Social delusion, aka unwarranted self-importance is what enables Web 2.0 so fucking profitable -- a hive mind community believing their own desires, dreams, aspirations and individuality are important create a massive amount of clicks, hits, and in turn, money for the owners, who promptly shit the users out in the cold.
Did your post have a point? Or were you just feeling lonely today?
On 8/25/07, David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com wrote:
Did your post have a point? Or were you just feeling lonely today?
no point at all, just random thoughts to entertain the crowd :-)
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