Hi,
TLDR: reply to me (off-list) if you would think Scrum of scrums is still useful.
I've been sending Scrum of scrums[0] mails to wikitech-l list since 2019-03-20[1]. The meeting has existed since 2013. I haven't done any proper research, but a quick look says the number of participating teams is decreasing significantly.
Quick sample, the first meeting of July in years 2014-2020.
2014-07-09 14 2015-07-01 12 2016-07-06 18 2017-07-05 16 2018-07-11 18 2019-07-03 16 2020-07-01 8
Željko -- 0: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums 1: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2019-March/091817.html
I would say that it's useful to me to identify and declare blocks, sometimes I get more attention from SoS instead of Phab and Gerrit discussions (even in this new email list model). And I also use some filtering for keywords to highlight if the team and projects I'm part of are mentioned in case I miss something. Maybe I'm overfitted [1] to the task and SoS could be rethought, but right now I'm not against to keeping it.
I imagine it's a burden to house-keep SoS every week, perhaps the email list could be more automated to reduce that burden?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 2:16 PM Željko Filipin zfilipin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
TLDR: reply to me (off-list) if you would think Scrum of scrums is still useful.
I've been sending Scrum of scrums[0] mails to wikitech-l list since 2019-03-20[1]. The meeting has existed since 2013. I haven't done any proper research, but a quick look says the number of participating teams is decreasing significantly.
Quick sample, the first meeting of July in years 2014-2020.
2014-07-09 14 2015-07-01 12 2016-07-06 18 2017-07-05 16 2018-07-11 18 2019-07-03 16 2020-07-01 8
Željko
0: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums 1: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2019-March/091817.html
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 2:17 PM Željko Filipin zfilipin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
TLDR: reply to me (off-list) if you would think Scrum of scrums is still useful.
I've been sending Scrum of scrums[0] mails to wikitech-l list since 2019-03-20[1]. The meeting has existed since 2013. I haven't done any proper research, but a quick look says the number of participating teams is decreasing significantly.
Quick sample, the first meeting of July in years 2014-2020.
2014-07-09 14 2015-07-01 12 2016-07-06 18 2017-07-05 16 2018-07-11 18 2019-07-03 16 2020-07-01 8
Željko
I've used the email/notes to keep up to date with things that are happening (for Tech News reasons, for example) even though I haven't participated, so I've seen some value here as a non-participant. But it needs to make sense for the teams taking part, of course.
//Johan Jönsson --
Hi,
Thank you everybody for comments on- and off-list. Looks like the meeting is still useful to some people. For now I'll only make one change. Instead of writing updates to the etherpad[0], let's edit the wiki page[1] directly.
I will send the usual e-mail to wikitech-l. Please let me know (off-list) if I should send the email to additional mailing lists.
Željko -- 0: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Scrum-of-Scrums 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2020-07-22
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 2:15 PM Željko Filipin zfilipin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
TLDR: reply to me (off-list) if you would think Scrum of scrums is still useful.
I've been sending Scrum of scrums[0] mails to wikitech-l list since 2019-03-20[1]. The meeting has existed since 2013. I haven't done any proper research, but a quick look says the number of participating teams is decreasing significantly.
Quick sample, the first meeting of July in years 2014-2020.
2014-07-09 14 2015-07-01 12 2016-07-06 18 2017-07-05 16 2018-07-11 18 2019-07-03 16 2020-07-01 8
Željko
0: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums 1: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2019-March/091817.html
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org